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If you live in Europe and think your democratic system is resistant to these things: it’s not.

Don’t wait until your version of Trump gets elected. Start organizing now.

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Italy elected Berlusconi (a corrupted tycoon who had ties with the mafia and bribed his way to the top of the Italian broadcasting world) in 1994. Y’all just catching up.

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RIP Berlusconi.

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Rest in poop?

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Don’t wait until your version of Trump gets elected. Start organizing now.

No worries, he already has been elected last year!

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Dick Schoof (yes, English speakers, that really is his legal name) is our Trump?

I’d say Geert Wilders matches that description, and he did not become PM…

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Dick Schoof didn’t get elected though, at least not by the people… Wilders was

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Absolutely, over here we’ve recently elected a horrible party as the biggest one, with 25% of the votes. Dark times.

The difference is that in many European countries the head of state is more of a ceremonial position (at least in practice) and the head of the government holds nowhere near the amount of power a US president does. With proportional representation, the biggest party often doesn’t have an absolute majority and needs to form a government together with other parties, or might even end up in the opposition. Together they agree on who’s going to be the head of government (usually the head of the largest party), who will be the ministers and what will be the policy. If it doesn’t work out because of disagreements, the government breaks up and new elections will be held.

My point is: the risk is real, populism is growing, policy is shifting, but the dynamics are different. Having a first past the post system and concentrating so much power into a single political position feels like an accelerator.

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And yet the “blame everything on immigrants” strategy seems to work quite well here too.

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far less trusts politicians

crazy thing is… that is the exact reason why trump is winning in the States. Someone comes along, crass, rude, claiming to be a layman and the people here ate that up, thinking “now here is a person like us, not like the established politician class” and despite the rhetoric, or due to it, along with suppression and disinformation, he got elected.

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Whoever thinks Trump is ‘people like us’ can drown in piss

How can someone think a spoiled rich boy is one of the working class?
Eroding education seems to work for those shitheads…

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This is fascism 101.

Fascism is at least as much an economic system as a political one, or more precisely, it’s more like an economic system hiding behind a political system.

And the way the economic system works is very simple - private ownership of the means of production combined with an overt and institutionalized revolving door between business and government, so that the end result is plutocratic oligarchy.

Basically, it’s taking the system that already existed in the US, by which the wealthy bought access to political power mostly surreptitiously and nominally illegally unless they followed specific restrictions, and legitimizes and formalizes and institutionalizes it and moves it right out into the open.

And behind all of the white supremacist and christian nationalist and reactionary conservative rhetoric, this was always the real goal.

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If the numbers are true it costed him less than 0.1% of his wealth which is surprising how little it takes. Would you spend 0.1% of your wealth to elect a President and gain a government post that will bring you more wealth? Would you spend 1% of your wealth to become insanely rich? 10%?

In the society where power is measured by wealth ultra rich should not exist. Or better such society should not exist.

Also Musk wasn’t even the biggest donor. And Harris was okay with this whole thing, she also received enormous donations. Who was against ultra rich? Bernie Sanders. No wonder he was sacked despite popular support.

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No I wouldnt spend 1 percent of my wealth to become insanely rich. Mostly cause that implies corruption and I aint nearly as bad as my kin though I have far more homicidal tendencies.

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nah, I like the Bannana man’s method better. reference- Bannana man in honduras

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What an absolute treasure Robert and Sam Reich are.

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Speedrunning the decline and fall of the Roman empire.

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We’re already speedrunning climate-based societal collapse, so there’s not really much time to slow walk these things.

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