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Hello [receiver’s name],

I’ve long dreamed about working for Mozilla. I learned how to send encrypted e-mail using Mozilla Thunderbird, and I’ve been a Firefox user since almost as long as I can remember. In more recent years, I’ve been an avid follower of Mozilla’s advocacy work, and was lucky enough to partner with Mozilla on investigative journalism in my last job.

In many ways, Mozilla was the dream – and now, as the leader of the Foundation, my job is to make my dreams for Mozilla come true. What that means, though, is making your dreams come true – for a trustworthy and open future of technology; for tech that is a tool for liberation, not limitation; and for tech that values people over profit.

So I’m reaching out to technologists, activists, researchers, engineers, policy experts, and, most importantly, to you – the people who make up the Mozilla community – to ask a simple question.

[receiver’s name]. What is your dream for Mozilla? I invite you to take a moment to share your thoughts by completing this brief survey.

Let’s start with this question:

Question 1: What is most important to you right now about technology and the internet?

  • Protecting my privacy online
  • Avoiding scams
  • Choosing products, apps, technology, and services that I can trust
  • Keeping children safe online
  • Responsible use of AI
  • Keeping the internet is open and free
  • Knowing how to spot misinformation
  • Other (please specify)

Take the survey now →

With your help, together we can imagine and create the Internet we want. Thank you for being a part of this.

Always yours,

Nabiha Syed Executive Director Mozilla Foundation

71 points

Just make a better browser… you literally pioneered RUST

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11 points

Thankfully, development of Servo has been revived, and it’s now fully independent of Mozilla. I believe it’s now being stewarded by the Linux Foundation of Europe, with a lot of contributions from Igalia.

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9 points

The result of the whole thing was project quantum. Firefox includes lots of Rust code. Servo was never intended to be a product, it always was a research platform.

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1 point

Yup, that’s when I lost the remaining hope I had for the project.

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24 points

They seem to have a foregone conclusion that AI is a positive thing, rather than something that should be eradicated like smallpox or syphilis.

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33 points

“Responsible use of AI” could mean things like providing small offline models for client-side translation. They’re actually building that feature and the preview is already amazing.

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IMO, there’s no such thing as responsible AI use. All of the uses so far are bad, and I can’t see any that would work as well as a trained human. Even worse, there’s zero accountability; when an AI makes a mistake and gets people killed, no executives or programmers will ever face any criminal charges because the blame will be too diffuse.

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16 points

There is no gray. Only black and white!

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8 points

The “translate page” button in my browser is evil? Get a grip.

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9 points

There are valid uses for AI. It is much better at pattern recognition than people. Apply that to healthcare and it could be a paradigm shift in early diagnosis of conditions that doctors wouldn’t think to look for until more noticeable symptoms occur.

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All of the uses so far are bad, and I can’t see any that would work as well as a trained human.

I’m no AI enthusiast, but this is clear hyperbole. Of course there are uses for it; it’s not magic, it’s just technology. You’ll have been using some of them for years before the AI fad came along and started labelling everything.

Translation services are a good example. Google Translate and Bing Translate have both been using machine learning neural networks as their core technology for a decade and more. There’s no other way of doing it that produces anything close to as good a result. And yes, paying a human translator might get you good results too, but realistically that’s not a competitive option for the vast majority of uses (nobody is paying a translator to read restaurant menus or train station signage to them).

This whole AI assistant fad can do one as far as I’m concerned, but the technologies behind the fad are here to stay.

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Peak hype-based ignorance 🤣

Being this confident while also not knowing how AI has been in use for more than the last decade, and going off on a rant on AI mistakes when a defining feature of AI is to solve problems that classical programming cannot, but without guaranteed results, is cringe AF

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Not just building it’s shipping by default. That is, language detection and code that displays a popup asking you whether you want to download the actual translation model is shipping by default. About twelve megs per model, so 24 for a language pair.

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2 points

It’s because it is a positive thing. Just because awful businesses hijacked and abused it doesn’t mean it’s all bad. Mozilla is approaching it in a positive way imo.

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And what, exactly, is positive about it, that has no associated negative outcomes?

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Specific to generative AI, I think client side generation can be a good thing, such as sentiment analysis or better word suggestions/autocomplete.

A number of other helpful tasks have negative outcomes, but if someone is going to use it, then I prefer they use the version of the tech that minimizes those negative outcomes. Whether Mozilla should be focussing on building that is a different matter though

AI that isn’t generative AI has a lot of positive uses, but usually that’s not what these discussions are about

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Interpreting MRI scans?

Translating language?

Object detection on assembly lines?

Object detection to sort recycling?

Identifying disease markers?

Classifying data?

…etc

Things that it’s been used for for ages now, and has become ubiquitous for.

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What’s positive about Mozilla having private, offline language translation?

Gee I dunno. Maybe that you get to translate web pages without sending that data to Google?

What’s positive about Mozilla using image recognition to generate alt-text for images

Gee I dunno. Maybe blind people being able to browse the web better?

What’s the positive about Mozilla using AI to flag fake product reviews?

Gee I dunno. Maybe to stop people being scammed?

E: I’m assuming you downvoted because you hate privacy, blind people, not being able to scam people with fake reviews, or some combination of the above lol.

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4 points

You’re going to upset a lot of chess players if you get rid of all AI.

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3 points

I mean, generally, it is.

It’s just that the uneducated masses don’t realize that “AI” outside of today’s LLMs has been improving our technological life for well over a decade now.

And so abused and misused for just as long. LLms and the hype and slop is a relatively new thing, this is old, useful, technology.

“Eradicated” is literally impossible, entire swathes of industries can only operate at the levels of efficiency they have come to rely on because of specialized models. And have for ages now, long before the hype and slop started.

Not every model is an LLM 🤦

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30 points

The audacity to direct you to a donations page after you fill out their survey 😂

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-2 points

What if the whole survey is just a ploy for donations

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-2 points

Always has been.

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6 points

My brother in Lemmy, how do you think they pay their engineers?

Would you rather them try and get revenue through advertising means? Because that’s what it sounds like, no decision is a decision.

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1 point

At the moment they still get money from me. Don’t know how much longer though…

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92 points

Shame their AI question didn’t have a “my biggest concerns is companies chasing the AI buzzword with no tangible benefit”

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27 points

right? mozilla, you gotta focus on making a good web browser right now. not a more gimmicky web browser

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0 points

I think the offline language translation is a neat feature in a browser

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1 point

I’m not anti-ai, but all signs point to the who thing stagnating, I don’t see what mozilla could contribute in the current climate.

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10 points

I agree that’s basically what I out in the text box underneath the AI multi-select options. “We don’t want yet another annoying AI search feature or chatbot! We want a focus on useable features and security!”

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Private, offline language translation is not “no tangible benefit”.

Neither is alt-text generation for images to assist blind people in searching the web. That’s a massive feature.

E: idk whether you’re down voting because you don’t want privacy or because you don’t like blind people lol

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Fuck the blindies, being all uppity with their scepters and shit

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“To disappear”

EDIT: I don’t care if you don’t agree and I’m not going to reply further. If you still did not came to the conclusion that Mozilla became just a cash grab machine by yourself, then you’re hopeless.

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25 points

What’s the alternative, an even bigger cash grab machine like Google’s chromium?

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-3 points

Isn’t google Chrome? I dont see an issue with chromium

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8 points

Google controls Chromium same as it controls Android. The product direction and included features are set by the team at Google.

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8 points

Take a minute to learn the difference between mozilla.org and mozilla.com. They are very much separate, and the .com has never pretended to not be there for the money. It’s explicitly why it exists, so that the org can keep doing its thing.

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Mate, that person hates Mozilla with such a passion they talk about it in their account bio.

40% of this person’s entire personality is “I hate Mozilla btw”. There’s nothing you can say to reason with him.

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