Pretty much the title. I certainly believe Trump, Maga, the Military, and the Police will, sooner or later, probably sooner, get around to at least attempting to deanonymize and round up online antifascists and leftists and imprison them. How organized and effective that attempt is I am less sure of.

To be very transparent, this is something I’m pretty sure I’d be on the hook for. I have a long log of anti trump, antifascist, left sentiments, and am 75% sure I’ll be disappeared at some point in the next 4 years as I have no plans of shutting up. The only reason I’m not 100% sure is because of how expensive it would be. But hey, maybe it’s less expensive than potentially losing power? So I don’t know.

Never? Not likely? Maybe? Very? Extremely? Definitely?

Thoughts?

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Given the majority of the supreme court are constitutional literalists, I’m going to stake a claim on very unlikely. That is literally against the first amendment.

Now, let’s say we live in some kind of bizaro land where you can be taken to court without the protection of the first amendment. (Difficult ti believe I know). You would still, hopefully, have a right to an attorney. If your case is high profile, or you have enough money, an organization like the aclu would help.

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Everyone’s like “it won’t happen” but I remember post-9/11 a specific Linux news site got hit with claims of radicalism and some folks who frequented the site got put on watch lists. For interest in Linux.

There was a reason folks like me were against all the surveillance from the PATRIOT Act back then, and this is why.


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Similarly, the Bush admin had the FBI spying on Quakers, the only religious group that anti-violence is such a central tenet to their religion that they by default are considered conscientious objectors and cannot be drafted into the military without violating their beliefs.

Post-9/11 the government thought peaceful Quaker anti-war activists were dangerous.

That was post-9/11 in the War on Terror years… It can happen here.


Sources:

Linuxjournal gets “extra surveillance:”

https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance

Quakers being spied on by FBI:

https://www.wired.com/2009/09/fbi-nsac/

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For people organizing protests and taking part in them, Maybe to Likely.

For people just posting things online, Very unlikely. They’ll have their hands full with all the immigrants and protesters first, and there’s far too many people who have said something leftist online.

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get around to at least attempting to deanonymize and round up online antifascists

They already know exactly who you are. People dont understand how pervasive online surveilance and profiling is. AI makes it simple to compile dossiers on everyone.

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Ah yes, as always, the ever-knowing magical AI. Because all the secrets of the universe can be aggregated using just few multiline prompts to the ChatGPT.

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You’re distrust of AI hype is fine, but you’re missing the point. OP said AI makes it simple to compile dossiers on everyone, meaning it’s now far less labor intensive to take all of the data being gathered by SIGINT and turn it into reports. The amount of labor required to build 10M dossiers on mostly impotent randos makes it completely unfeasible, but with generative AI being able to quickly summarize a dataset, suddenly we can have shitty, somewhat lossy dossiers on every moron shitposter.

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I’m pretty sure the capabilities were there before LLMs and the LLMs don’t add that much value relative to it’s cost.

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moron shitposter

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Not chatGPT. But AIs are good at one single thing and that is pattern recognition. And there is a lot of data to train and use those AIs on. Decades of data from your PCs, phones and tablets is on NSA servers. And yes, the NSA did shit like recording you through your notebook camera or recording your phone calls with your first girlfriend.

AI will probably never replace human workers/engineers/artists/…, but sorting through your online history is exactly what AIs excel at.

Also Dragnet policies are used by the police for a long time now. This is pretty much just that. Imo the main question is more if they want to burn that data on this task, because once they do this some people will adjust and it will get harder to get new data.

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Can we all take a moment to consider the very real information the NSA has on trump and how they are doing nothing about him?

The alphabet boys must be tired of lurking in the shadows.

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It’s not even an AI thing; look at how widespread domestic surveillance was back in the 60s. In the years since it’s only gotten easier to record messages and calls, match those records back to addresses or GPS-given locations, catch people on video, etc.

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Unless you’re doing actual organizing, unlikely. The DNC isn’t friendly towards Leftist orgs either, though MAGA groups themselves may become more millitant.

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