Dark day for online privacy in the UK.

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wOn’T sOmEbOdY pLeAsE tHiNk oF ThE cHiLdReN- how about doing some actual parenting? also it’s not like this will stop illegal content, what a joke

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Oh this is done for the money. What wouldve been better is age restriction to the whole net, hopefully finding a way to make parents responsible for their children and what they do. But that means way less views and traffic for ads. Yes there’s “YT Kids” and such but what being on the internet has taught me is absolutely every type of online service can be exploited and attacked.

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I can understand parents wanting some help from official sides. They are hated no matter what they do: Controlling internet access, especially of their teenagers? Helicopter parenting, or parents on a power trip. Letting their children use the internet? Neglecting assholes. Sitting next to their teenagers while they use the internet? Overbearing creeps smothering their children and possibly jobless leeches.

Parents have to at least be able to trust content filters.

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Nice strawmen u got there, they can helicopter their dicks too idc stop controlling MY experience

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So encryption is dead in the UK?

Do they not realize there are messaging services that don’t even have a central server or even an entity responsible?

Or companies that don’t even have a presence in the UK, and thus no responsibility to comply with their laws?

Pedos will just download and install something like Keet or Signal or Session while the privacy and security of law-abiding citizens are irrevocably compromised…

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One more law to break as a criminal

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Mby Briar or Jammy

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I mean there’s no shortage of possibilities

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Or just create a simple messaging app within a day using libre options with some AI tools to re-brand it.

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After bouncing back and forth between the house of lord’s and the house of commons This bill is a shadow of it’s former self. I’m glad to say.

Three things that were massively damaging for privacy and security have, as far as I can see, been scrapped.

  1. The bill no longer requires tech companies to control ‘harmful but legal’ content. A blurry, ill defined concept that would have been impossible to regulate.
  2. The bill no longer requires all end to end encrypted communication channel’s (WhatsApp etc) to have a backdoor for governments and enforcement agencies to access unencrypted messages between people. Something that would have broken effective security in every way.
  3. The bill no longer requires porn to only be accessible to UK citizens after they have proven they are an adult. This was by providing bank details or ID to porn websites (lol no thanks), possibly through a third party company that is supposed to assure some privacy ( lol still no thanks).

And what’s left in the bill is going to be regulated by Ofcom, a toothless underfunded shell of a regulatory body.

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Can I ask where you got this info from? The article says the bill is 300 pages long. I’m never getting through all that.

Edit: the article also claims age verification for porn sites is still in there?

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Sure. I’ve not read it either but here’s what I’ve found.

Removal of encryption backdoors - https://www.wired.co.uk/article/britain-admits-defeat-in-online-safety-bill-encryption

Removal of ‘harmful but legal’ - https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/29/uk-online-safety-bill-legal-but-harmful-edit/

Age verification isn’t so clear cut but there’s room for a lot of hope. What ‘age verification’ is going to be in the bill is yet to be determined by Ofcom.

… Which is law makers kicking the can down the road… or passing the buck. Probably because it’s unenforceable and a technical/ privacy nightmare. Maybe it will amount to something, in which case we should be afraid, but I think most likely it will amount to not much.

Full bill is here if you have a spare 3 days to read it all - https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/52368/documents/3841

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Again, the necessity for encryption backdoors has not been removed, simply paused.

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It is still in there.

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re your 2nd point, that’s most certainly not been scrapped. The language has changed to basically say, they’re aware thetech doesn’t currently exist to do this but as soon as it does, it must be done. It’s a temporary reprieve at best.

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OK great, because that tech will never exist.

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Of course it will. As soon as quantum processing becomes a reality, which is getting nearer and nearer to happening, encryption will be simple to crack.

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Don’t worry, allmof that will be back on the table again next year, and then the next and the next, untill it passes.

Remember kids, if you want to be a good evil politician, you just keep pushing and pushing and pushing your evil shit until people tire and it passes.

This shit has been on the table at just about all governments since at least 2 decades. It just returns each year with a new name, same shit.

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I hope they make this worldwide.

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wtf, why?

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Because the social media giants should be held responsible for the damaging stuff they host and push through algorithms that target hate and an adapted “if it bleeds it leads” style of pushing things just to keep people enraged and engaged.

Why do you think removing child porn, animal crushing videos, and suicide content is a bad thing?

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68 points

Guess V for Vendetta will come true as the U.K. has fallen to Fascism.

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We recently passed a law that enables the UK to indefinitely detain adult and children refugees and asylum seekers. I’m sure they’ll be building camps next.

This government has no morals.

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The nazis scared britain so bad during ww2 they want to try it themselves.

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Well, people have actively been trying for decades. National Front, British National Party, UKIP, anything Nigel Farage touches, they all have elements of white supremacy, various other forms of bigotry, or “Traditional British Values”.

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And that’s another part of this bill - discussion of ‘illegal immigration’ is now forbidden.

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Is it a blanket ban on all discussion of illegal immigration or is it something more specific? Like discussing plans to help immigrants or something.

If it is a complete ban, how will online news outlets cover the subject?

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England prevails.

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I fucking hate this country

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It is a consistent embarrassment and detriment to the world.

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