13 points

Bark bark bark

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Almost 25 years of that attitude from the US is how this war started in the first place[1], and now hundreds of thousands are dead or injured and millions are displaced.

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You will find that the actual cause for the dead, injured, and displaced, is that Russia invaded Ukraine.

The simplest fix would be for the Russians to go home.

The more permanent fix would be for the Russians to go home, and have Vladimir Putin accidentally fall out of a window very high up. That would be reasonable, given how many men he basically threw into a meat grinder.

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Every recrimination has an equal and opposite recrimination. In the end, we are where we are and every country chooses how to play their own hand by themselves.

Russian leadership knew what they were doing when they attacked a foreign sovereign country in an act overt aggression.

I’m sure there are plenty of rationalizations they tell themselves, but it’s not the US that “started this” in any meaningful way.

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The war started because of Russia. It’s insane to state otherwise.

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3 points

“Spokesperson, issue more empty threats! Surely this time they will finally take me seriously!”

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You’d think the West would have taken it seriously after Crimea was annexed. But even after losing most of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson, there are still imperial core labor aristocrat clowns like you, still failing to read the room.

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The room in which Russia is an unjust invading imperialist force. You agree, right?

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1 point

What’s the room saying, comrade?

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12 points

So many incredibly stupid takes in comments. This is not a game. This is not a fucking Netflix special. The escalation ladder is so easy to go up, but so hard to climb down. This is a terrifying development.

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This should be delivered to Putin, How exactly should the world deal with a fanatic armed with nukes?

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Maybe the US shouldn’t have made such an obvious and stupid choice to escalate the conflict by allowing Ukraine to use their weapons?

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Maybe Iran and North Korea shouldn’t have made such an obvious and stupid choice to escalate the conflict by allowing Russia to use their weapons?

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13 points

You misspelled America

I won’t bother listing the countries the US has bombed invaded or overthrown governments in the last oh I dunno 100 years

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Putin started this war tho. Didn’t he?

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Your ideology has zero explanatory power in the real world. “Fanatic” means nothing now.

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4 points

Thank you for proving their point.

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lol

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Completely unrelated question: how hard does one have to rattle a sabre before it snaps the blade?

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So I commented this before, Russia spends the same amount on its nuclear arsenal as the UK, while claiming a far larger arsenal. Even accounting for differences in currency value (so cheaper labour) and assuming Russia has some magical efficiency gains in maintenance its still not enough to even come close to maintaining an arsenal that size. Nukes need the fissile material swapped out every couple of decades or they’re just really expensive dirty bombs.

This puts Russia in the position where if they launch a single nuke as a warning there’s a genuine chance that it might just fizzle, if that happens it would be crippling to their apperance as a nuclear armed state on the world stage, the embarassment of crossing the ultimate red line with nothing to show for it.

So i guess the answer is the sabre is pretty rusty and it might not snap when rattled but there is a chance it snaps when Putin goes in for a real stab.

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8 points

Nothing ever happens.

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Biden using his last few months to start ww3

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If Russia starts nuking shit, wouldn’t Russia be starting ww3?

Or are we supposed to just accept the implication that only western countries have agency?

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Do you understand how WWI became a world war? When two countries had a conflict between them, a network of alliances caused others countries to become parties to the conflict. That’s exactly what’s happening here.

The US, through NATO, was deploying lethal capabilities in Ukraine. Russia determined that this was strategically threatening its security, a position that it has held for 30 years and has been acknowledged by US leaders, diplomats, and generals, as well as world leaders and even the leaders of NATO. Russia launched a conflict with Ukraine, and Ukraine only, in order to address its security concern.

If the USA enters the war, unprovoked by Russia, then it would be the USA starting WW3, just like in WW1 a conflict between two countries expanded to include uninvolved parties when they made themselves involved. The problem with the ATACMS is that it requires US/NATO to operate. Within the borders of Ukraine, that means that US forces are killing Russian soldiers in Ukranian territory. While problematic, Russia has only escalated its rhetoric based on this involvement. However, if US/NATO troops were to use ATACMS to strike Russian targets on Russian territory, that would be an act of war against Russia which would require a response. In this way, the US would expanding the war beyond the conflict of Ukraine and Russia to now be Ukraine, Russia, and the US - an escalation to world war.

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This is clearly a response to the US allowing strikes inside Russia.

Interesting timing to do that when Ukraine, Germany and Russia have been gearing up to negotiate an end to the war next year. Wonder if this is to give the west more leverage in the negotiations or to escalate to give the republican admin next year a tougher time.

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So you’re saying Russia has never struck inside Ukraine. Or somehow The US started the war in Ukraine.

Or is it just a freaking stupid idea that one nation can attack another. And expect them not to retaliate.

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Interesting timing to do that when Ukraine, Germany and Russia have been gearing up to negotiate an end to the war next year

Threatening nuclear war under these circumstances is definitely an interesting timing.

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I doubt Russia will actually use nukes, what with MAD and all.

Then again, people said the same thing about the invasion. Russia doesn’t have a no-first-use nuclear weapons policy like the USSR did, so they could use them if they deem the country to be under existential threat.

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Behold the power of western intellect.

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you’re such a braindead troll, it’s silly

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The favorite weapon of the westoid, acting like the biggest imbecile in the world and claiming history starts not when they choke you, but when you break their wrist so you can breathe.

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Let’s take this metaphor at face value for a second.

What in the endless litany of grievances you call history could possibly justify pressing the launch button at this particular junction in time?

I’m serious, make the best possible case you can for Russia starting a nuclear war right now.

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Russia is the victim in this situation, actually. Don’t you all get it? >:c

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