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Once again, they are only looking at the people who DID vote… Those people always vote, and clearly the proportion of blue “always voters” is dwindling compared to red “always voters”. Yes ignorant voters lean red, but it doesn’t matter. Stop pretending like there’s a huge swath of “swing” voters. There’s not. Trump got basically the same votes this time. This election came down to the 10 million Biden voters who stayed home for Kamala. That’s it. All the rest of this is nonsense bullshit propaganda to obscure the truth. Why didn’t they come out for Kamala??

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Because she’s a genocidal cop prosecutor. Who could be less inspiring?

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  1. Because she’s a woman
  2. The DNC failed to remind people what happened under Trump (Which is how Trump got away with “Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?”
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lost the ones more easily duped by soundbites of lies.

“I love the poorly educated!” -Trump, 2/2016

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It’s too bad she didn’t offer any soundbites of truth. Her entire campaign was built around being inoffensive to everyone which meant saying nothing that might evoke meaning. Lies thrive in that environment.

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I have spoken to two kinds of voters.

First off, was my dad. He never ever voted in his life. This was his first year of voting and he went Harris. Simply because he knew enough of what she was about and liked her character.

Meanwhile, the other party was my formerly adoptive mother. She voted Trump because “I just don’t like the other party”. That was her only reason. And that was just simply dishonest and uneducated.

So, it is possible that someone is capable of just even doing the tiniest research can give you an idea of who to vote for.

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The ones that get their information from places like Fox, Threads, Facebook, Nextdoor, X, etc.

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How can you not include X?

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You’re right. I just don’t use it and deleted my account, so it wasn’t in my head. Added.

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No, SHE didn’t.

Corporate News Fucked Up Again.

For some reason all the headlines about this seem to be about what the DNC or the Harris campaign should have done.

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This is what happens when you sell all of the major news outlets to billionaires - they publish pro billionaire propaganda

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I’m doing my part by getting more news than I probably should from Lemmy.

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I don’t think it’s fair to just dump all the blame on corporate media. The news media landscape hasn’t meaningfully changed since Trump was first elected, but despite having 8 years to formulate a sound media strategy the DNC is still campaigning like it’s 2015.

Like, sure, the Democrats are running with a handicap in the current media landscape, but that isn’t new, and it’s the responsibility of the DNC to figure out how to overcome that disadvantage — a task that the current leadership has proven itself woefully incompetent at.

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Yeah but like, it’s a bit crazy that the right has: Fox News, OAN, NewsMax (or whatever it’s called), Joe Rogan Experience (gateway drug/sanewashing), Benny Shaps network, X, Truth Social, Prager U, Tim’s Pool, right wing radio, and lots of other smaller shops and they all seem to claim corporate media is the worst and they’re all here to tell you the truth.

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What’s crazier is when WB bought CNN and literally said Faux News was the plan for what they wanted to do, and loads of journalists resigned from CNN over the changes…

People still think any media organization owned by billionaires has a chance to be “on the left”.

If a billionaire (or group of billionaires) own a media company, it’s only to manipulate people into blaming anyone except billionaires for the current state of affairs.

Like, it’s great you’re realizing it now…

But the merger was two years ago…

https://www.vox.com/2022/8/26/23322761/cnn-john-malone-david-zaslav-chris-licht-brian-stelter-fox-peter-kafka-column

None of this was done in the shadows, they came right out and said it. Publicly and repeatedly.

What you want to happen is happening. The Dems are getting their own versions of that shit.

The problem is they’re getting it for the same reason: to trick us into voting against our own interests.

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Don’t forget Sinclair Broadcasting. They’re the local branch of the right wing propaganda machine.

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The news media landscape hasn’t meaningfully changed since Trump was first elected

I think that’s the heart of the issue. Yes, DNC should have figured out away around all corporate media outlets but that’s an enormous, unbelievable ask.

Yes, the DNC should be mobile, and memeable, and . . . fuck, I dunno - on 3.14chan or whatever, but at the end of the day they still have to rely on the fucking Today Show and NBC Nightly News and the motherfucking New York Times to carry their message without shitting on it - which they absolutely will. never. do.

The right has poured hundreds of billions into this since the mid-90s. The left has no fucking clue. Despite having all the academics and content creators telling them what to do. It’s time to put a fist in the face of corporate news. Sweet talking has gotten us a fascist dictator.

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I mean… bernies doing it. Dude is like 80 and is absolutely idolised by the younger generation and regular middle and lower class people because he seems to actually practice what he preaches and is genuinely interested in what’s good for people. Most politicians to me just give the impression of seeking politics to enrich themselves and clasping onto power to avoid losing that even when their senile and completely incapable of fulfilling their role.

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Democrats ran another perfect losing campaign. Some people might say that losing makes a campaign definitionally imperfect, but that’s only sane people.

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Ahhh a lifetime politial operative from the EU eh? All 24 years! Okay.

Okay - enlighten us. What was wrong with it. Wait - wait, lemme guess. She gave in to (((special interests))) and ignored the working poor like a cucked lib? I knew it!

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She lost to a carnival barker. Other than that, the campaign was perfect! Great news for the Democrats because they have the perfect formulae. (/s in case you missed it.)

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For some reason all the headlines about this seem to be about what the DNC or the Harris campaign should have done.

Wait…

You’re surprised people are blaming the candidate that lost and her campaign team that was paid millions of dollars and spent over a billion and still couldn’t beat trump?

Why?

What is the logic where the people whose literal job was to win the election, aren’t at fault for losing the election?

And I’m scared to even ask, but:

Since you think they’re blameless, does that mean you really want us to do the same shit in four years again and hope this time screaming at people will be effective?

Cuz buddy, it’s never been effective at anything besides letting some shitty republican into the Oval

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Fucking up implies they didn’t get exactly what they wanted.

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This is the real answer

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There’s no way in hell either Kamala or Biden’s egos left any room for them to want to lose. They tried to win and to please their patrons at the same time and found out the hard way that it’s not always possible.

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Sure they wanted to win but losing doesnt change Kamala’s or bidens lives at all. They dont have to bear the burden of the trump nonsense like average people might.

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Fair. “Fucked Us Up Again”?

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Corporate news is not the guardrails of democracy. Ultimately, the people are responsible.

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Will we be nominating better voters next election, or should we try to nominate a better candidate?

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Ok, what does that actually mean when you apply the sound bite to reality? What are your specific expectations for “the people” as individuals?

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Poor soul thinks said corporate media somehow exists completely outside of the scope of the DNC as if the DNC itself isn’t just a convention for corporate donors to show up and throw in their demands in exchange for campaign funds and lobbying money.

I mean I’m sure the headline NYT article about Clinton having a 91% chance of winning was totally some next level corporate funded psyop and not a one of the many thousands of advertisements paid for by the DNC. /s

No, it’s totally the corporate media that’s after her and has absolutely nothing to do with the candidate that dropped the entire uncommitted movement worth of constituents for $100 mil in corporate AIPAC money. /s

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Is the DNC in the room with us?

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WTF is with people on this site and the DNC?

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