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I can’t wait for her to be president!

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That would be an exceptionally good day.

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I’m liberal, but holy shit the division from that happening would make Obama and Trump seem like warmups

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No… Don’t you see?

No matter how centrist or moderate democratic candidate is, the Republicans call them communist, socialist pedophiles.

They’ve painted themselves into a corner. We could nominate a full-on Marxist flag-burner, and they would have nothing left to say about them that they didn’t already say about Obama and Biden.

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You say that like the person even matters. As long as there is a D next to their name the other side will act like the world is ending. Literally.

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I am not an American, so I have to ask: Is AOC really that radical? To me she looks like a left leaning liberal with the most radical idea being MMT. Other then that it is normal talking points of a left leaning politican.

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I’m liberal but the first thing that comes to mind about this advancement is something negative. I would prefer a negative peace, an absence of conflict, to a positive peace. I’m a liberal.

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Stop I can only get so hard

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she applauded the climate movement for starting to “crack the grip” which the fossil fuel industry holds on the nation’s political economy.

“That’s because of you,” she said to those in the crowd. “Don’t let the cynics win. The cynics want us to think that this isn’t worth it. The cynics want us to believe that we can’t win. The cynics want us to believe that organizing doesn’t matter; that our political system doesn’t matter; that our economy doesn’t matter. But we’re here to say that we organize out of hope! We organize out of commitment! We organize out of love! We organize out of the beauty of our future! And we will not give up. We will not let go! We will not let cynicism to prevail!”

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In Australia we’ve just essentially criminalised climate protesting. Climate protestors now risk a huge fine and even jail time. A lot of people suspect it’s because governments are preparing in advance for what might become a huge movement that they can’t control. So they’re trying to disincentivise people before shit hits the fan.

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That sounds about right. Sadly for them, no manner of law is going to stop the mobs when people start going hungry.

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I’d say it’s more that peaceful protest and violent protest are symbiotic. Peaceful movements attract broad support, and ensure you can not easily be dismissed as extremists and violently suppressed. Violent protest show that you can not be ignored without consequence.

The idea that they are at odds is harmful.

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Huh, never thought of it that way, but that makes a lot of sense. Kind of a carrot and stick approach.

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https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/environment/2023/09/16/trial-protesting-against-woodside this is one of the examples of what’s happening in Australia right now. Counter terrorism police raiding people’s homes for vandalism (if you can even call it that). Let this be a warning and prepare accordingly. I guarantee your governments are looking at how they can do this shit in your countries.

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I went to a climate protest in Canada last week and it was way to tame to actually get anything accomplished.

The main part of the protest was walking down a main artery. For protesters, there is incentive to walk slowly and spread out to make the walk longer and disrupt status-quo longer, but the organizers clearly only had permission to march for a specific duration so they were in the back hurrying people forward so we’d stay within our allotted time window. Maybe 30 minutes. Once a year. It was pointless.

Add to that that 90% of the people there were exactly the people you’d expect to be there and it just felt like a waste of time.

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It absolutely was a waste of time, nobody noticed or gave a shit.

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There is an exception to every rule, and one of my rules is that all politicians are money grubbing, ego-maniacs, who want nothing more than power. She might be the only exception to that rule.

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I’d say Bernie is one of the exceptions. They are rare.

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I think Katie Porter is also on this exception list.

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You are setting yourself up to be fooled.

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Agree that humble beginnings stories probably make for better politicians (she’s far from the first though), but the drive to tolerate years of political bullshit is almost always a personal power quest and indoctrination into a corrupt system makes for corrupt individuals. The expectation from prior data would be for her to follow this route. I will disagree with you that she doesn’t care about power (and shit).

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Meanwhile, here in the UK, Ministers consider rollback of green policy to try to win votes from those who really should not vote Tory.

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Term based politics really make me struggle with democracy when it comes to this topic. No one is going to do jack shit if that means they lose votes, or half assed shit at best.

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That’s why candidates should be randomized

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You would just make it a lottery.

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That’s probably the dumbest suggestions I’ve heard (so far). Bravo.

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Aren’t you glad, the EU isn’t there to regulate this kind of thing anymore? /s (do we use the sarcasm “/s” here as well or did we leave that at the old place?)

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WE DO NOT USE THE /S

We use comprehension

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