So, until recently, I have been using https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/blob/master/hosts.txt

However, as some issues that I have opened have shown, there are a bunch of left wing and progressive sites on this list ( https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/issues ). I no longer think that it is trustworthy. Especially after reading some of the repo owners replies. Intentionally added was t.me which is a generic url for any telegram group. Discordapp.com was on it at one point.

Oy Vey. It’s clear to me that the owner of this repo is not actually spending much time actually curating this list and instead it’s just a shotgun approach. Does anyone know of a good alternative?

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I’d rather be able to filter these topics from sites like Lemmy, I’ll never actually go to them. I’m curious what you’re really trying to accomplish.

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Doesn’t it sound at least a little bit foolish to trust someone else to intentionally censor the politics of your internet? You’re creating your own echo chamber.

How can you understand and disagree with the other side if you can’t even read their content? I’m not even talking about hate groups, I’m talking basics like WikiLeaks and the NRA.

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Everyone is susceptible to misinformation, information silos, and bad arguments. Someone who claims that they are not susceptible to these things is the most susceptible.

You can view it as efficiency. Something coming from a qanon source is going to be garbage, so you’re saving yourself the time of having it be in your view.

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Even if what you’re saying is true, you’re now relying on someone else (or a group of people) to censor sites you wouldn’t like and also not be susceptible to those things when creating this blocklist. You’re ignoring the risks associated with false positives. You can’t outsource your own critical thinking.

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You’re kind of arguing against the foundation of human society. If we’re all required to “do our own research” about things, where does that requirement end? How can I buy food if I have to do my own research on what’s healthy or what’s dangerous? What about my tap water? How can I put gas in my car? Use electricity? A computer? A phone?

Somewhere along the way you have to trust the systems that have been built by the people before us to function, and for people who work in those fields who are experts to use their expertise.

Obviously oversight & verification is also important. It’s important that people earn trust and work to maintain that trust and get booted if they violate that trust.

But it’s foolish to just stop trusting experts out of nowhere. It’s extra foolish to stop trusting experts specifically because they say things you don’t like to hear. As far as I can tell, that’s been the accelerating project of the Republican Party since at least the talk radio explosion following the demise of the Fairness Doctrine. Maybe longer if you go back to Moon landing deniers and their ilk.

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No, it’s not ‘creating an echo chamber’ to avoid the discussions of a deranged cult.

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Labeling the opposition as a deranged cult that must be censored doesn’t exactly sound anti-fascist to me. Again, not talking about hate groups here or anyone that advocates for violence.

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Perhaps you are not familiar with qanon and their beliefs, but they are not ‘the opposition’. And they do advocate for violence, frequently.

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You put qanon on the same level as wikileaks?

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Nope. The linked list does. Check the URLs. WikiLeaks is blocked.

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Well both are suspected to be influenced by Russia, with the goal of undermining the west.

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Name a major media outlet that hasn’t been suspected to be influenced by Russia.

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The issues you raised about those sites were fixed within two hours.

https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed

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Those were just the ones I found. There are likely many, many more. The sites I found are not even small publications either. Commondreams, rawstory, dailykos? Those are some very recognizable sites. if big ones like that slipped through, then that tells me that there is zero effort going into vetting the list.

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Perhaps the curator is running a red herring with the intention or blocking liberal media?

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I highly doubt it tbh, but the thought did cross my mind.

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By all means, put some effort in. Please.

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I use that list as well as the ones at https://github.com/antifa-n/pihole/ (though they haven’t been updated in years). I also use OpenDNS upstream to block their “Hate/Discrimination” category (among others).

I’ve been pretty happy with this setup, but I would welcome alternatives/additional blocklists.

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If you’re doing this in a business environment, I wouldn’t fool around with a home rolled option and would just go straight with a Websense subscription:

https://www.websense.com/content/support/library/deployctr/v76/dic_wcg.aspx

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