I’d argue it’s an objectively true statement that, of all the people alive today, Putin has singlehandedly caused more death and suffering than anyone else. The gap between him and whoever is second is likely orders of magnitude. Yet, when I read discussions about him, Russia, or the war in Ukraine, I almost never see the kind of hateful, nasty, and mean comments directed at him that I regularly see aimed at Trump, Elon, or even ordinary Republican politicians. Why is that?

Bonus question: Why be so nasty about it in the first place? There’s nothing wrong with criticism, but I struggle to understand the need for such meanness. Even when I agree with the sentiment, reading comments like that feels toxic. It poisons my mind too. I don’t like being angry, and I avoid it for practical reasons as well. Anger clouds my judgment, and I think it does the same for others and thus should be avoided.

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The majority of people hate Putin, just like anything else you will find people justifying terrible stuffs. Putin is a war criminal and caused a ton of suffering but Israel caused more death and suffering than Russia

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Israel caused more death and suffering than Russia

Irrelevant and not true.

As of 5 November 2024, over 45,000 people (43,391 Palestinian[1] and 1,706 Israeli)[19] have been reported killed in the Israel–Hamas war

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Russia’s military casualties, the officials said, are approaching 300,000. The number includes as many as 120,000 deaths and 170,000 to 180,000 injured troops. The Russian numbers dwarf the Ukrainian figures, which the officials put at close to 70,000 killed and 100,000 to 120,000 wounded.

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And that doesn’t even include civilians.

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Agree that it’s irrelevant here, but conservative estimates put the number of dead in Gaza at 200k+. It’s definitely not just 45k for a few reasons.

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Quality concern trolling. No notes.

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I utterly reject your premise

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I get angrier when I think of Musk or Trump because, bafflingly, my peers have been fooled into giving these frat boys control over parts of my life.

Not so much Putin. Yet.

Granted he is probably more objectively evil.

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Putin also has seemed to stfu and back away, musk and trump just word vomit constantly

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Pretty sure you are measuring using the wrong indicators.

There is little reason to talk shit of Putin as he is so hated, just as no reason to discuss water being wet.

Don’t start “whataboutism”. Those other people suck too. No reason to rank them.

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There is little reason to talk shit of Putin as he is so hated, just as no reason to discuss water being wet.

Wouldn’t the same be true about Elon and Trump though, especially when talking about Lemmy.

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That’s Whataboutism.

Putin probably gets plenty of hate on Russian language social media. English language social media is going to be full of criticism of English language influencers.

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There’s a huge contingent, even here, who loves both those guys, but maybe more importantly, they’re supposed to be on our side. Hell, Trump is the president! Putin is the dictatorial ruler of an enemy country, we expect that he’s going to do and say stuff that’s terrible.

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