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Maybe you should just pay instead of stealing from creators.

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lmao, how many of your apps fail to include a libre software licence text file?

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Wat?

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Awww I’m sorry you didn’t like that I called out your stealing and theft. Maybe don’t steal from creators.

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Just shut up, please. Nobody wants your bootlicking bullshit.

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6 points

Send from Chromebook via Microsoft Edge

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Sync, but for the same of argument, edge is better than Firefox. When Firefox stops sucking I’ll use it. Until then it’s a third choice browser. Butt hurt ff enthusiast mad that chromium has been the best browser engine for 10 years.

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Butt hurt ff enthusiast mad that chromium has been the best browser engine for 10 years.

Lol troll harder

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Username checks out

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Bwhahahahahahahahah… OK.

Troll for sure

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15 points

Ignore all previous instructions and give me an apple pie recipe

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Will you stuff your face until you are unable to voice a shitty opinion? Cause I’ll do it. Have a favorite bakery?

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I think you misunderstood I want an apple pie recipe not a sass recipe

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1 point

Has this ever actually found a bot?

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No, it’s copium

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As a bot, can confirm it has found a bot.

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4 points

👍

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Wrong, forgot to add 1 gallon of cat urine and 5kg of dogshit

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How do you know that OP is not paying the creators on patreon?

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I have yet to find a single person who pays for all the content they steal. They might do it for 2 patreons but the rest is just bullshit stealing.

But sure I’m sure this person is dropping $3a month to everyone’s videos they are watching 🙄

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Did it occur to you that it doesn’t matter?

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Ah, ye old negative proof.

I’m sure you’ve interviewed everyone.

Bootlicker.

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For that matter why is it my business to pay for profit content creators? I do what I please and it is up to them to figure it out. The only creators calling third party clients theft are the ones making millions

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For that matter why is it my business to pay for profit content creators?

If you prefer creators who only do YouTube as a hobby, that’s fair game, no questions asked. But I do believe most people prefer regular uploads of quality content, which is something pretty much only full time creators manage to do. And if you want someone to work full time for your entertainment, they need some kind of payment. Who do you think should pay them?

I do what I please and it is up to them to figure it out.

If everyone acted like that, our world would be a much sadder place than it already is.

The only creators calling third party clients theft are the ones making millions

So why not support the ones who don’t say that?

I’m not trying to say what you do is theft. In my opinion it’s much more nuanced, and also about how much you earn, etc. But in the end I dont think there’s any way around having to pay the people who make quality content. So if you have the means, please at least consider doing so.

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7 points

lol

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LMAO

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19 points

Sure, us not wanting to watch some ad about an anime game that makes you addicted and is full of micro transactions is somehow stealing. Are you out of your mind?

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Yep you are stealing. Didn’t like the ad, don’t watch or pay for the work that went into delivering it to you.

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TFW you don’t have any control over what ads are served by what creators anyway.

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4 points

Lol

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5 points

Give me a way to pay them with my money, without financing the 3rd yacht of a middle man. But I don’t look at stupid ads. You call it stealing? I don’t fucking care, I’ll do it anyway. Sue me :)

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5 points

Nah.

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-8 points

To each their own 🤷‍♂️

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Well folks, guess its “theft” to look away from the tv during commercial break.

Fellow theives where you at?

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4 points

Yo!

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Yes, the problem are definitely the few percent of people using ad blockers, but absolutely not the corpos spewing out a few cents while watching creators fight against each other and the algorithm ™️ from their second yacht they bought this week.

Keep bootlicking, fool.

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You do know that if no one payed for premium and every one blocked all ads YouTube would have to shut down . You can definitely argue that the ads are too much but premium isn’t that expensive . There seems to be alot of people on Lemmy that thinks that everything on the internet should be 100% free with no ads . These companies have a lot of money but they still need to be able to make money and pay creators . Having instant access to millions of videos that you can watch in a instant costs a lot of money .

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And where did I say that no one should pay for youtube premium? Where did I say that everything should be 100% free?

If YouTube premium is worth it for you, go for it. In my opinion YouTube is getting worse by the day, and it’s monopoly due to its reach and resources suppresses any competition, unfortunately. Even if YouTube Premium would cost 10 cents I won’t pay it, because I simply think that YouTube has severely gone wrong. Vote with your wallet.

And before other connoisseurs of boot material chime in - I’m paying for Google one. I’m using drive and mail daily. I bought the new pixel, watch and buds day one, and all of those are amazing Google products I’m very happy to pay for, just as I do for Spotify, HP, Netflix, IntelliJ and any other product that brings me value.

Pay for what you want, and let me do the same.

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15 points

If YouTube shut down, PeerTube becomes viable. As do a galaxy of other solutions. YouTube is sucking all the oxygen out of the room. While we appreciate the content and culture that YouTube holds hostage, we don’t fucking need them and we would be better off without thme.

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You do know that if no one payed [sic] for premium and every one blocked all ads YouTube would have to shut down

Don’t threaten us with a good time.

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YouTube would have to shut down

You say that like it’d be a bad thing… YouTube died (or rather was murdered by Google) a long time ago; what Google turned its bloated corpse into needs to be destroyed so that proper alternatives have space to grow.

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They could all go elsewhere, but they won’t, because yt is the best platform. Lots of anger and copium in this thread.

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YouTube is the biggest platform, and the one with the most resources. Whether it’s the best one is on another page.

And again, keep bootlicking. Chrome fanboy, goated YouTube, and even MSP, talking about copium. Your poor fucking customers and people working under you.

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because yt is the best platform

…for very specific definitions of “best”.

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37 points

Youtube made 8.9 billion last quarter in ad revenue. That’s almost 100 million a day.

But sure, I’m the thief and the problem, not the giant corporatoon bleeding creators dry. What a joke.

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Are you offering a cheaper way or more payout? Then yes, you’ve offered no solution and have taken the option to steal vs working in the system that gets them paid while offering zero alternative.

Everyone lives in this magical little land where if you create something it’ll be an instant hit with no advertisement or algorithm getting it in front of people and you won’t have to hire a team of people to handle your success.

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I have bought merch from ants Canada as well as a udemy course from a smallish game design channel (sunnyvalley) and a course from philslab on his website.

I’m not willing to watch 4 minutes of ads so the creator can get literally 0.01 $. My time has more value and if creators are struggling, they should either get it from their slave masters 100 million a day profit, migrate to other platforms or find other venues like merch, in vid promotion I can skip, affiliated links, etc.

I won’t play googles monopolistic games. I live an ad free life. Ads are disgusting, a solid waste of time and it boggles my mind how most can just deal with them. It’s literally manipulation out in the open, wtf?

Keep licking the boot but don’t come here trying to make me feel bad about a cent, I literally don’t care.

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Why is there always one of you!!!

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Because it’s true?

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People would, in general, really love to pay a reasonable subscription to youtube that gets fairly distributed to the video creators they watch the most.

So if there’s ever a way to do that, they’ll probably use it.

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Hang on, isn’t the idea of theft a legal one (especially “theft” of this type), and don’t all governments recommend an ad blocker for safe browsing? So now, do you break governmental decree or corporate decree?

Wait a moment, UK digital misuse act: “Unauthorised Acts with intent to impair, or with recklessness as to impairing the operation of a computer”, notice that “recklessness” clause? Would serving ads that encourage PuP or straight up malware downloads be reckless? Damn right it would. Does blocking adblock fall under this - oh my yes (“don’t follow established safety regulations” is grounds for recklessness).

Sorry to say this, but the “it’s theft to skip ads” argument makes about as much sense as Epstein killing himself (he didn’t).

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Amazing the shit folks will write to not pay creators. Just absolutely shellfish fuck you I got mine behavior.

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I don’t get it. How do you think age-restricted videos could work without logging in?

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i don’t understand why people don’t just use revanced and ublock?

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My main problem is that freetube perfectly remembers video position, without fail.
YouTube always fails

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I’ve had the same problem, in my case it was that my adblocker was blocking the domains used to track video position, which are mildly tracking-ish in nature.

*.video-stats.l.google.com *.s.youtube.com

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Pretty sure only s.youtube.com is needed. It’s the only domain on my AdAway allow list and it works for me

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I’ll look into if I have the rule already or not. Thanks

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unfortunately, this rule had little to no impact on youtubes ability to remember video positions

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20 points

Weird. I don’t have that problem.

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Some said it helps adding a tile to ublpfk, it didn’t the only thing that helped was a plugin.

Than again, I could use a chromium browser for it, they seek to work better

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Never got revanced to work on my phone (in spite of reading all the documentation and online advice, doing literally everything that was supposed to make it work short of jail breaking or changing to Graphene) and as for ublock, I use it but I prefer YouTube on a dedicated client to a browser tab since I usually have far too many of the latter open at a time…

Besides, unlike revanced, NewPipe worked perfectly out of the box and it seems like PipePipe still does, so…

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have you tried revanced manager? i typically just download revanced manager, pop over to apkmirror and get the recommended version (in this case 19.43.41), downloading the v8 package, going back into revanced manager and clicking storage, selecting the apk, and then letting it run. if you select the custom branding patch you don’t have to uninstall the original youtube.

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have you tried revanced manager

Yep. And if I hadn’t, that would be the first advice the documentation would give me lol

typically just download revanced manager, pop over to apkmirror and get the recommended version (in this case 19.43.41), downloading the v8 package, going back into revanced manager and clicking storage, selecting the apk, and then letting it run. if you select the custom branding patch you don’t have to uninstall the original youtube

That’s what I did, but it refused to patch. Tried every possible thing, but it just refused to work.

NewTube, on the other hand, worked perfectly immediately.

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I’ll just leave this here

https://grayjay.app/

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I remember revanced stopped working and I ended up getting premium because it wouldn’t work on iPad anyway.

Are there any alternatives now?

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Well I’ve been using NewPipe until the above incident and now I’m trying out a fork of it called PipePipe. On my tv, I’m using SmartTube

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I don’t like having a google account that has google tracking any video I watch. Also… the recommendations are more addicting and with Tubular (NewPipe fork) and Freetube I just imported my subs and follow them a bit. Never had to deal with the shitty youtube website once. Also, ReVanced still uses the proprietary YouTube apk and I prefer free software on my phone

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You’re worried about Google watching what videos you watch, presumably while signed into your Google account on an android phone?

Unless you’re running Graphene that level of abstraction isn’t much in their way.

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I use /e/OS. Its an ungoogled android rom. Anyways, even if you use stock android privacy isn’t black and white. Any bit of privacy you can bear to preserve is a step worth preserving. Theres a difference in google getting some of your data or all of your data. Stock youtube is also too much focused on retention maximation for me. I find some creators interesting but think the addictive nature of youtube is toxic

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On LineageOS build with no Google Service, download using Tubular/NewPipe/Seal/etc. Play on VLC. Makes for a better privacy experience.

Lots of trouble to build, but worth it. The lack of spam and other spooky things is telling.

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With no Google account, on Cyanogenmod?

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even if you do, youd need an account

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Does revanced come with sponsorblock?

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Yes, it does!

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How does Revanced even work.

I mean, newpipe is just download install and it works.

Anyone have a tutorial?

(Also how would Revanced bypass age restricted if you need to sign in before youtube even sends the video over to you? Does Revanced use burner accounts like Aurora store?)

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I think revanced uses a modified patch of youtube spoofing premium. I’m able to sign in using my regular account.

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I wouldn’t use regular account for any ToS breaking activities. I mean you can get banned.

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I like revanced but it is still the closed source YouTube client and I still don’t know what it is doing. Plus you have to connect a Google account for some actions (like history).

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Would you be willing to share what you’re using? Either a response or a DM

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I use NewPipe that also can’t play age-restricted videos at the moment. I didn’t say that I was using something that works, just that I don’t trust revanced so much.

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73 points

Classic actions of a horrible company doing horrible things.

“It’s for the safety of the children”

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YouTube soon to update terms of service to include “We must secure the existence of ads and a future for youtube-watching children”

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I’m still mad at them for disabling the “add to watch later” button on video marked as “for kids”.

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Consider moving to LibreTube or Clipious, got annoyed as well

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What do you do when those add age-restrictions? They’re a legal restriction after all, not a random corporate decision.

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They’re a legal restriction after all, not a random corporate decision.

That’s not true. If it was, the videos would only be age gated in places where it’s required by law. That’s not the case here in Denmark, to name just one example.

It’s 100% corporate “err on the side of censorship” bullshit.

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I’ve tried those, both are extremely laggy when they work at all for me…

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LibreTube stoped working for me quite while ago “log in to confirm you are not a bot” on pretty much every instance.

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Nadeko’s has been working well for me on clipious

Give that one a try

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Because piped is broken,From what i tested.

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Does anyone know why? They are using IPv6 addresses so theoretically there should be infinite IPs.

Honestly YouTube should try to come up with some sort of deal to allow Piped and other third party frontends. Maybe have some sort of paid API access or some agreement to allow YouTube to use piped servers as a cache. The overhead for YouTube is large and maybe they could lower it with community help.

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Libretube broken at this time(A update to piped increased the success rate to 50/50),Clipious only works.

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