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Housing is a basic human need, it shouldn’t be allowed to be only an investment. With the other items, you can just say “so don’t buy it”, which is not possible with housing, you have to pay for it, even of you wouldn’t like to.

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fumo is a basic human need

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Honestly, I get what you mean, but it also provides funding for new housing projects to be built first, and if you weren’t allowed to invent in it it would also not really be possible to rent a house, since that relies on someone paying for the house first.

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Housing construction isn’t funded by existing housing investment. It’s generally funded by debt. Private or public, just like any other capital intensive endeavor. And debt isn’t created by lending people’s savings but by creating new money. By public or private lenders. (Private lenders create money too.) The only thing that is really needed ahead of time is labor, equipment and materials available. Financial capital is created on demand to mobilize those real resources.

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I’d bet if you were a lego fan you’d say the same about legos.

Housing and concerts are orders of magnitude apart in “importantness”. All of the items above are not needed to live. A home is needed.

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People who buy Lego to sell in the future actually do call it investing by the way

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Define a “home”. A cave? A tent? A huge loft? What is really necessary to survive?

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I agree that “just don’t buy it” is not that easy for culture in general, it could be applied to hypermonetized events.

I’m not sure I get your second point. How is Ticketmaster enabled by people boycotting events that get scalped?

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How is Ticketmaster enabled by people boycotting events that get scalped?

They aren’t by that specifically, but they are by transferring the blame to scalpers and the victims of both scalpers and Ticketmaster…

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An Important want for sure, but not a necessity in any way shape or form. You won’t die or get sick by not attending a concert or a guitar would be listed in survival guildes

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Sustenance for the spirit.

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Yeah. Not to mention that a lot of people’s social identity, social activities and sense of community are all tied up in going to concerts together…

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The worst thing about this is that housing is essential, while all the other things aren’t. Scalpers only take advantage of other people’s shopping addiction, while these so-called “investors” take advantage of other people’s basic needs.

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That’s why they are held in higer regard

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👏👏👏

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I’ll add to that: The PlayStation etc scalpers at least give you a still-new product at the inflated price. The landlords rent it out for additional income and THEN sell it at a profit.

So it’s more like buying a PS5 for $500, having somebody rent to play it for $100/mo, then selling it for $800 after a year

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This isn’t even true were I live. Investors will buy new appartments and leave them empty and sell them a few years later. Renting them would decrease the value more than the income is. It’s worse than you thought.

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basic needs make good investments unless the government supplies a viable alternative.

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psychopath behavior

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Unable to see the argument behavior. The government, the other commenter is saying, must provide a viable alternative in order to prevent this behavior.

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They’re all pieces of shit and deserve to be kicked out an airlock into deep space.

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When scalpers buy all the tickets to a concert in milliseconds, and the only way to buy a ticket is through a scalper, why are you blaming the person who wants to go to the concert instead of the scalper?

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If we all collectively agreed to not buy from scalpers the ticket sellers would have a real incentive to do something against the scalpers. Right now they don’t have to care.

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Woah woah woah, we weren’t expecting an easy example to prove us wrong, how dare you.

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You could go do something else instead or watch one of their performances on YouTube for free. Nobody has a gun to your head, a concert isn’t a necessity.

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You could, but they aren’t the ones causing the issue, they’re just enabling profits to be made from it.

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6 as well. Imagine if nobody would buy houses and just expand their parents house by a floor for their own family.

If that doesn’t work - make the neighborhood criminal by yourself right after those “people” bought houses.

If that doesn’t work, just purge them.

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Oh yeah its totally affordable to just expand in existing houses. Why didn’t i think of that?

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I think that’s what caused the housing market to crash.

Surely it’ll happen one of these days right?

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Nah, it’s not worth the price of sending them up there. Just compost them.

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especially the “investors”

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“Private Collector”

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The commonality here is how expensive the things are. Scalping is another one of those things that’s trashy if you’re poor and classy if you’re rich.

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Scalper no Scalping!

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