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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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Hi, I’m new here. I mean, I’ve been reading but I haven’t commented before.

I’m sure you all know about how cheap labour is used for labelling data for training “AI” systems, but I just came across this video and wanted to share. Apologies if it has already been posted: Training AI takes heavy toll on Kenyans working for $2 an hour.

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Welcome! The situation these people find themselves in is dire, since they’re both literally and emotionally as far as possible from the people making decisions about their labor. The modern economy doesn’t function without exploitation, and generative AI is the latest innovation in expanding that exploitation and pushing it farther away from the people who benefit and who make the decisions that require it. It does to modern knowledge workers what automation and outsourcing did to manufacturing, and the distance is sufficient that I don’t expect to see even the kind of lukewarm pushback that sweatshops got in the 90s actually manifest for them.

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404media:

In the aftermath of an LGBT hate incident, the then-CEO of cloud computing giant Digital Ocean told upset staff his mentor was a member of the KKK as an attempt to explain why they must bend their values because “we love the company”

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It somehow gets worse. These people think values are interchangeable with value.

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Asking employees to “bend” their perfectly sensible values like “I don’t like homophobes” or “members of the KKK suck” is insane to me, but exactly the sort of thing a tech CEO would think would resonate with his workers.

I stay at my job not because I have molded my soul into a perfect vessel for my companies values (which, TBH, kind of suck), but because I have a mortgage payment.

(Also as the header graphic points out, “love is at our core” and “inclusive environment” are apparently some of their values so maybe it’s Digital Ocean which needs to bend to Digital Ocean’s values).

At least there’s a happy ending:

A month after the all-hands meeting, in August 2023, DigitalOcean announced that it was conducting a search for a new CEO, but did not say why.

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My hands are requesting the CEO’s home address (in Minecraft real life):

Quick bonus I found in the replies:

And a quick sidenote from me:

This is sorta repeating a previous prediction of mine, but I expect this AI bubble’s gonna utterly tank the public image of tech as a whole. When you develop a tech whose primary use case boils down to “make the world worse so the line can go up”, its gonna be virtually impossible for the public to forgive you.

Being more specific, I expect artists/musicians/creatives in general to be utterly hostile to AI, if not tech as a whole - AI has made their lives significantly harder in a variety of ways, and all signs pointing to the tech industry having done so willingly.

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in real life

Careful not to post things that could get you into trouble with a judge without a sense of humor, or just cops/secret service. Wouldn’t be the first time I hear of a home visit because the cops got confused at a joke.

Esp if it turns out the conspiracy theory about the murder being crypto related and they confuse this place for being a pro cryptocurrency place.

E: on topic just not LLMs and artists but also the idea that Musk got Trump elected will cause a backlash. (Which I find dubious, more despite the man, they made the election be about a gay onlyfans support squirrel ffs)

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5-10 years ago I’d say OP’s comment is definitely protected under the First Amendment (assuming US based) but now who the fuck knows what those turdwagons on the bench will come up with to dismantle it.

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Sure, but that step comes after the cops lift you out of your bed. And you get a good lawyer etc etc. Nobody was charged after the home visit but it still was a home visit, granted that was in .nl so less risk of being shot or getting your stuff stolen. And that is assuming the law still works.

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An update, a user stated, “with all love and respect”: “people will not starting hating Brave but they will start to hate the mod who blocked Brave”.

2 hours later they’d removed their account.

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I’m not super familiar with Lobsters but I love how they represent bans: https://lobste.rs/~SuddenBraveblock

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@hrrrngh @gerikson Pretty sure that’s that person deleting their account and not a ban, bans look a bit different (e.g. https://lobste.rs/~AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA)

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Yes, the person briefly changed their username and then left the site (disowning their comments). There are 2 people with “inactive-user” comments in the thread that simply flounced off to greener pastures.

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also, tech billionaires terrified of a peasant uprising can turn their homes into fucking military bases with a home security system named (of course) Sauron

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Fuckers like Thiel make me want to start stuffing guys who take too much interest in speculative fiction into lockers again, just to be safe. And I was that kid, right down to the STEM focus and disrespect for the liberal arts.

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12 points

It’s never wrong to gatekeep fascists.

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Ah Lyta Gold, one of the enjoyable writers from current affairs before Nathan went all “call an ambulance! I think I’m having a moment of class consciousness! But just for me!” Starts firing everybody. And I realized that vague socialist left libertarians suck. (In a just world he would languish alone on his site, with only the email replies he gets from Noam Chomsky to keep him warm. But it isn’t a just world, so he just replaced his writers, like a proper capitalist owner).

But turns out Gold (I had lost sight of her) has a book “Dangerous Fictions: The Fear of Fantasy and the Invention of Reality” out which might be relevant to us. And she also blogs on substack, with relevant to out interest posts like “what ever happened to right-wing art?” (Moldbug mentioned, drink!), and a look at conservative masculinity “What if we treated men like adults?”.

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LOTR fans stay losing

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