Summary
President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.
The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.
Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.
Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.
This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.
Thank fuck the guy you’ve all been defending did a selfish act just for himself and his family before ditching us all to die.
Vote with a brick next time.
Good old Lemmy, defending its owners. Wage slaves in spirit lmao
Lol. Americans told Dems to go fuck themselves despite being infinitely less corrupt than Republicans and voting in favor of working class Americans infinitely more often than Republicans.
And now you’re over here putting on your clown nose and complaining that they did one kind of semi-corrupt act of a father pardoning his son for non-violent crimes while the true criminal walks free as OUR PRESIDENT?
Get this pathetic shit out of here.
By having a voting record proving they vote in favor of the middle/lower classes infinitely more than the Republican party?
By having a record proving they have had WAY, WAY less convicted criminals in their ranks than the Republican party?
By historically being better for our economy than Republicans?
I’m confused. Are you saying the Democrats told voters to fuck themselves by blantantly being a better party than voter’s other option?
Biden didn’t “ditch” anybody. He doesn’t owe you anything. If you are going to die because of Donald Trainwreck, it is the voters fault, not Biden’s.
Six months of executive action ability.
Uses it selfishly.
“He doesn’t owe you anything.”
I voted his ass into office. He owes us everything within his power to deliver.
So, either he can’t, or he won’t.
So he won’t.
So fuck him, the puppeteers holding his strings and making sure he doesn’t fall down while walking across a stage, and his drug addict son.
Reading through these comments and seeing people excuse this because trump is worse validates the race-to-the-bottom strategy that republicans and democrats cooperate on. Republicans will keep lowering the bar while democrats will continue hovering slightly above that bar as their only differentiator and we’re all on the ride on the way down.
Gun charge “while using illegal drugs”.
Tax fraud.
c’mon now, fuck all that shit. 100% political, “witch hunt”, and all that. I would have thought less of Joe had he not done this.
Man I thought blue MAGA was just a stupid meme but I guess it’s real. Fuck the Democratic Party, I’m out.
You can’t really think that anyone gives a shit about Hunter Biden and his schoolyard antics in a vacuum.
I don’t feel like searching, but can you find such zealous prosecution for a nobody for these crimes?
You do have to remember that most of us didn’t give a fuck about this supposed crime to begin with. I mean who Among Us hasn’t lied to the government about our drug history?
Also should mention that it’s clearly unconstitutional by the way.
Also should mention that it’s clearly unconstitutional by the way.
Then they should fight it legally and win. That would also set precedent for others who aren’t rich and powerful.
It would also be amusing to watch liberals making a 2A argument in court.
who Among Us hasn’t lied to the government about our drug history?
Me. I’ve yet to be given the opportunity… but I’ll be happy to lie about if it comes up.
Um no?
Don’t tell me if you knew the threat to democracy who had a personal vendetta against you and your child was following you in office and has threatened and made blind accusations multiple times that you would NOT pardon them. Biden did the right thing as a parent and a mildly objectionable thing on a moral standpoint politically which… just fuck off with that. I don’t wanna hear about morality from the party that constantly defends rapist and child abusers
I don’t want to hear about morality regarding biden and his full-throated support of genocide. He said he wouldn’t pardon his son and that he believed in the rule of law, but when it comes down to it, he goes ahead and pardons him because he ultimately knows the institutions he has fought so hard to defend are full of shit. Us peasants are still supposed to be held under the power of these institutions, though, and he has done nothing to change that. In fact, he’s played a big hand in making it as bad as it is now with his tough on crime stance.
The gun crime is bullshit. That law isn’t enforced on anyone. It’s also probably unconstitutional if you follow the conservative understanding of that amendment (which is complete bullshit, but that’s beside the point).
Tax evasion, sure. That maybe shouldn’t be pardoned but also it’s only an issue because he’s the president’s son. I don’t dismiss this, but also I recognize that it’s mostly bullshit Republicans drummed up because they couldn’t get anything on Biden.
I will point out to every conservative who defends Trump who says anything about this though. Trump is literally a convicted felon, and multiple cases are being dismissed because he was elected. If they think Hunter shouldn’t get off free, then they better have some strong reasons Trump should.
This pardon also stops any investigation into the “10% for the big guy” email.
Reading through these comments and seeing people excuse this because trump is worse validates the race-to-the-bottom strategy that republicans and democrats cooperate on.
No, you don’t seem to understand. The race to the bottom strategy was a Republican thing. But now that we know that’s how you win in America, some of us are supporting that strategy for Democrats as well.
Gotta adapt to your environment to succeed.
I’m on board with that, but democrats refuse to take advantage of their power for our sake. He’s just doing this for his own sake. This selfishness is what allowed trump a second term, since democrats would’ve had a much better chance if biden stepped down earlier and allowed for a proper primary.
but democrats refuse to take advantage of their power for our sake.
I agree that they could do more. But I also acknowledge that they’ve done WAY more for us than the Republican party has. I don’t vote for perfect. I vote for better.
He’s just doing this for his own sake.
I’m ok with him pardoning his son. First of all, Trump threatened to go after his political opponents if he won. That’s a threat to Biden’s son. So Biden did something about it. Secondly, Biden was, by all metrics, a solid president. And Americans told him and his party to fuck off and re-hired a twice impeached convicted felon and rapist who incited an insurrection and illegally attempted to overturn an election. We treated Biden like shit. He doesn’t owe us anything additional. I think it’s fine to take this small victory to protect his son from unwarranted threats and then retire.
since democrats would’ve had a much better chance if biden stepped down earlier
I agree. But I also have a pretty low opinion of Americans, so I don’t know if it would have mattered in the end.
What’s funny is the expectation by so many here that a guy “unwaveringly supporting” people mass murdering children for their etnicity would have the Morals to not pardon his own son when he can do it at no cost to himself.
Like all other sociopaths only considerations about “consequences” drive his choices.
A lot of people here missing the point. We don’t care about this because Hunter was the target of a witch hunt. The actual “crimes” weren’t impactful at all. The Republicans literally spent 8 years dragging him through the mud, digging for anything that he could be charged with, just because who his dad is. And Hunter didn’t even touch politics in the slightest.
The gun charge is the moral equivalent of crucifying someone for having pirated music on their hard drive. It was a nothing crime, never enforced, and the only reason it was in this case was because they happened to find something they could latch onto.
I don’t know anything about the tax evasion conviction. If it was serious, then sure, fuck him. But I’d want them going after every politician AND their family with equal vigor. But guess what? They aren’t.
That’s why most of us don’t really care. The man is not important. He holds no position of power, nor has he expressed any intent to. He is not important, except as a whipping boy for their propaganda. And a pardon for such preposterous prosecution is fine with me.
We don’t care about this because Hunter was the target of a witch hunt.
He was convicted in court by a jury of his peers same as every other American under charges would see. He wasnt convicted in some political “witch hunt” process in congress, nor was he convicted by an activist judge. The congressional investigation went nowhere and was shut down. Hunters convictions carried a sentence of 15 to 21 months. If his conviction is unfair and needs to be resisted then the entire system of justice in america is unfair.
The actual “crimes” weren’t impactful at all.
thats not your call to make. This is just another case of hard justice being for the little people only, and you seem to be cheering that on. How low can you go, man. Biden spent a lifetime banging tables pretending to be a tough on crime guy. You seem to have forgotten all of that.
This never should have been before a jury.
The prosecution had agreed to drop the gun charge as apart of a plea bargain (because it’s a crime that is only ever used as an add-on for violent crimes). But the fucking judge rejected the plea deal after Biden had admitted guilt.
That’s bullshit and 100% should have been thrown out.
I’m not a lawyer, but I thought the way it worked was that the prosecutor offers the plea bargain and the accused accepts but it’s still up to the judge’s discretion whether that accepted plea bargain goes through, meaning that the system was working as it always works and it wasn’t some sort of special persecution deal.
He was convicted in court by a jury of his peers same as every other American under charges would see.
So was Trump. But he got away with it and is now President. Hell, he didn’t even have to go through the process for most of his crimes. Just bypassed it all.
Nothing else matters now. The rest of your comment is irrelevant. The justice system is irrelevant.
Free Hunter!!!
First, did Bidden just notice that his son was a target of a “witch hunt” after the election? Or was he just lying before?
And second, Bidden literally controlled the DOJ for 4 years. It was his call whether to go after other corrupt politicians or not.
I think Biden was holding out hope in the institutions and people of America and was sorely disappointed, like a lot of us, so is doing what he has to, like a lot of us.
It is amazing to me how people will make excuses for a lying politician that even he did not bother to make.
Bingo.
Biden was waiting to see if America’s institutions and citizens would hold up and pass the test. They did not. They failed spectacularly, in fact. A criminal became president and will now not be held accountable for his crimes, and citizens voted explicitly for that corruption.
I’d be damned if I was sitting president if I would let my son be in prison for non-violent crimes when a criminal who openly stated he would target his political opponents sits in the Oval Office.
Clearly taking the high road doesn’t work in America, so why the fuck should Biden continue doing so?
It’s common practice for outgoing presidents to wrap up loose ends like this. Late term pardons are not a new thing.
He did not just leave it for later, he actively lied saying he will not pardon Hunter.
Yeah, but he’s a Democrat, so he’s held to higher standards than Republicans.
If a Republican did this you probably wouldn’t have even heard about it.
Do we need any better example than what just happened to know that Democrats are held to astronomically high standards, while Republicans can basically do whatever the fuck they want without repercussion?
She had to be flawless and he got to be lawless.
And Hunter didn’t even touch politics in the slightest.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden :
"Biden was a founding board member of BHR Partners, a Chinese investment company, in 2013, and later served on the board of Burisma Holdings, one of the largest private natural gas producers in Ukraine, from 2014 until his term expired in April 2019. He has worked as a lobbyist and legal representative for lobbying firms, a hedge fund principal, and a venture capital and private equity fund investor. "
“Biden was hired to help Burisma with requesting assistance from the U.S government to expand its business and corporate governance best practices,”
Im uninformed so I know nothing of Hunter’s supposed crimes. Can I get a quick rundown?
If you’re being serious, the gun charge is that he checked some box on a gun application stating that he didn’t have any drug addiction problems. IIRC, it was after he got his shit together and was sober.
I didn’t follow the tax evasion charge.
I don’t know anything about the tax evasion conviction. If it was serious, then sure, fuck him.
If you can’t even be bothered to read an article about it why should any weight be given to your opinion. The tax fraud was 1.4 million dollars and he actively lied on his returns to avoid payment. He effectively stole over a million dollars, fuck him and all tax cheats.
Ok. What part of that conflicts with what I said?
If he cheated on taxes, then fuck him. But I think it’s generally assumed that these fucks all cheat on their taxes. So if you’re going to go after one, then go after all of them.
And again, he’s not actually a politician, and was only targeted because of who his dad is. If you don’t see that as abuse of authority as revenge against his dad, then there’s no point in talking to you.
Also, if you read the fucking article yourself, it never goes into details on the tax charges.
There is no “if,” he did cheat on his taxes for over a million dollars. Yes, go after all of them! The only reason Hunter got away for so long was because of who his dad is, so kind of karmic that it came back around for the same reason. Hunter received far more leniency for a long time for drugs, gun, and financial crimes due to his wealth and families influence and Joe Biden was instrumental in making sure poor people who do the same thing get punished harshly. Until it was HIS son, then all the excuses came out.
Also, if you read the fucking article yourself, it never goes into details on the tax charges.
This article does not, but none of this is new. We have known about these crimes for years. You displayed absolutely zero curiosity about what crimes he did in your haste to whitewash Biden’s hypocrisy. We will not get better politicians or leaders until we demand it.
I do not care that Hunter was not a politician, though that never prevented him from getting paid off his family name and only avoided punishment for so long because of who his father is. I do not care why the charges come about, these rich fucks need to pay. Maybe if the Democrats were willing to see that the rich and powerful actually face consequences Trump and all these right wing grifters might have been dealt with before they came to power. But back when Trump and Kushner were donating to Democratic campaigns none of them managed to give a shit. We should strive for a higher standard of morality than Donald fucking Trump.
Good. I hope the democrats play just as dirty and hard as the republicans going forward. We cannot be civil with barbarians.
In a world where we keep poking each other’s eyes out, everyone ends up blind.
Stop both sides bs, this is a guy pardoning his son’s addiction, not committing treason, attacking the capital, or selecting a cabinet of pedophiles. Have some fucking humanity, putibot.
Yeah but maybe the world would be better if everybody was blind. I can’t imagine a blind person using a gun effectively.
At least neoliberals are finally admitting they have no moral high ground whatsoever.
Stop, please.
I believe in the goodness in people more than is optimistically allowed, but even I am forced to acknowledge the existence of sociopaths and psychopaths who abuse the good will of innocents and well-meaning people alike.
Sociopaths and psychopaths will always make fun of those they abuse, and they will use the morals and ethics of people against them.
Sociopaths and psychopaths will always make fun of those they abuse, and they will use the morals and ethics of
peoplesimple hypocrites against them.
You are a simple hypocrite.
But then the Democrats will BECOME the barbarians. Do not stoop to the level of sloppy populism – behave honorably and it will pay off in the long-term.
Fuck that. Playing dirty in this instance does zilch to help you. Why the fuck would you support this? How does Hunter Biden being pardoned help you or anyone else at all? Democrats are okay to play dirty when it is done defending basic rights for Americans, not for the political elite. Hunter is a grifter and he should absolutely face the consequences.
Its not exactly revolutionary action, him pardoning his son is no win for the working class
I would also like them to do that too, but I would prefer they do it for something other than nepotism.
