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I look forward to this.

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Well, cue the comments about stopped clocks and righteousness.

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DOGE won’t be able to do anything because it’s a fake office made to keep Elon happy enough to fund Trump. It won’t last a year before Musk and Trump hate each other because two narcissists like that can’t share a space.

He can recommend ending DST all he wants, but nobody will have to listen to him.

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Agree. DST is set by an act of Congress, and it can only be changed by an act of Congress.

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There is already a push for this though. Not eliminating DST, but making it permanent. This is just DOGE trying to take credit for something that could potentially already happen. Like how the GAO already exists and DOGE is just citing reports the GAO already has done. Nothing says efficiency like putting two people in charge of a program that is duplicating what another agency already does.

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Yes please let’s end the madness and stay on summer hours year round.

What is GAO?

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The Government Accountability Office. Literally an office that already does what DOGE is supposed to do.

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Not eliminating DST, but making it permanent.

Typical that Musk would choose the more costly and environmentally damaging option.

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Why would that be more damaging? That was what congress wanted to do, before Musk.

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I don’t know, do you really have any faith in this Republican congress not to just rubber stamp everything that Trump and his man behind the curtain tells them too?

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I would like to stop changing the clocks. I read a while back that in the 1970s they did it and reverted back because so many people complain about getting up in the dark. Seems like it would be best to keep the winter hours honestly. All the proposal I’ve seen want summer time.

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Who wants a 4am sunrise in the summer though? I think more people prefer extra light in the evening since you’re out and about already. It doesn’t make much different in the winter whether sunrise is at 8am or 9am since everyone is getting up and going to work/school in the dark either way.

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To be fair, a place I go in the US the sun is already coming up at 4 in the summer. Maybe split the difference?

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I’ve traveled to places near the equator where the sun rises at 4am and once I adapted, I loved it. That being said, and this is key, I wasn’t working when I was in those places.

End time changing. Keep summer time year round. I think we need to stop saying “end daylight saving time” because what we actually want is to keep daylight saving time and stop changing the clocks. It can be confusing. Hopefully somehow this is a nonpartisan issue because the disinformation will be nuts if it gets politicized.

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What do you do when the sun gets up at 5am? I get up at 7:30. If managed to find a solution for sleeping 2.5 hours in sunlight, I’ll do just fine with 3.5.

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When I worked in the office, it was dark when I went to work and dark when I got home (in winter). I don’t care which one they pick.

FYI, I was in school in 70s when Ford stopped it. I don’t remember it being a big deal. And neither was metric.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act

Sunshine Protection Act of 2018: Died in committee in House and Senate

Sunshine Protection Act of 2019: Died in committee in House and Senate

Sunshine Protection Act of 2021: Passed Senate, died in committee in House

Sunshine Protection Act of 2023: Referred to the Subcommittee on Innovation, Data, and Commerce

Numerous polls have found that most Americans believe that a standard time should be fixed and permanent—as many as 75% favor no longer changing clocks twice per year.[18] One of the most common observations among researchers of varying backgrounds is that the change itself causes most of the negative effects, more so than either standard time or daylight saving time.[1] Researchers have observed numerous ill effects of the annual transitions, including reduced worker productivity, increased heart attacks and strokes, increased medical errors,[19] and increased traffic incidents.[3]

The debate over the bill mainly concerns whether it is better to have more sunlight in the morning or the evening. A 2023 YouGov poll found that half of Americans supported permanent daylight time, 31% were in favor of permanent standard time, and 19% had no preference or were not sure.

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So what you are saying is that to get it approved we just need to sell is as pro-business.

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For anyone who cares about this, please read that carefully. What we want is to keep daylight saving time (summer time) and stop changing the clocks. If you want this and are saying you want to “end daylight saving time” you are saying the opposite of what you want.

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