I’m going to eat a burger tonight and think about this post the whole time.
If animals aren’t meant to be eaten then why are they made out of food?
If animals aren’t meant to be eaten then why are they made out of food?
We need to replace that reasoning with something more precise, abeit less funny:
If animals aren’t meant to be eaten, then why can my body digest their meat?
Why can your body digest new born babies and dogs? Why can your body sexually violate them? Dumb take. You dont derive ethics from what your body is physically capable of doing.
Nice straw man argument you got yourself there.
I was clearly referring to the digestive system, which is the part of the body that processes food, but as I used the word “body” you found something to latch onto and went off a tangent talking about raping animals and babies (babies specifically, Jesus fucking Christ, what’s on your mind, man?).
My point is that our “body” is able to sustain itself on a diet that includes animal meat, out body has evolved to be able to process it.
I never said that we should eat our pets or everything made out of meat. Besides, while I don’t share their views, there are cultures where eating dogs or practising cannibalism is common.
What if I told you you can both enjoy meat alternatives and meat, that they aren’t mutually exclusive?
Animals are delicious, but so are alot of vegetarian foods too. To try new things i made Saturday vegetarian food day, and ive made some fuckin’ tasty veggies. Fuck veggie burgers or shit like that, but like a pizza with a fuck ton of different vegetables is amazing.
Uh oh, you activated the fragile carnivores
Stop putting fake meat in your food. It’s expensive, farming and processing it is environmentally disastrous, and everyone insists it’s just as good as or better than real meat but they’re always sobbing a little bit when they say it. Either eat meat or don’t.
I think the canned meat chili already is cut with tvp to save money. and everywhere i can find suggests that plant based food is cheaper.
Is it though? If you’re referring to large scale farming of soybeans - you’re correct. But we use soy as a feed for animals. There would be no need to produce that amount if we were to eat it directly.
People switching to plant based nutrition is by far better environmentaly.
Remember that processing soy into textured vegetable protein costs energy and generates waste. Switching to plant based meat subs is better for the environment. Switching to plants is best.
I completely agree! But I think that it’s easier for families to use those products since it’s an alternative to what they’re already cooking. I prefer to cook using unprocessed plants - but don’t really see a fault in supplying an alternative to meat.
Damn. Now I’m craving a black bean burger.
If you don’t use extra lean ground beef for chili, and then don’t drain it well during cooking, the fat and grease will tend to separate the rest of the sauce and give it a weird oily texture. The plant based stuff doesn’t have that grease so it’s harder to fuck up. If prepared right the real meat still tastes better. You also have to heavily season it during cooking.
Some of the best chili I ever had was actually made using seasoned ground turkey. Because that’s naturally a lean meat.
Skill issue.
Its not about the skill lmao, I’ve cooked shit tons or chili, with turkey, chicken thighs, ground beef from a local farm, ground beef fresh ground at the butcher daily extea lean. Before i went veg i was close to getting a meat grinder for my kitchen aid, but i started using imitation ground cause it was on sale and it blew all the other proteins out of the water. And I decided to cut meat out for a month to challenge my self as a home cook and haven’t cooked with it in almost 8 months, just because i dont miss it. and if i do plant based chorizo or a plant based ground scratches that craving. Plant based nuggies are also fire.
I am glad it works for your tastes, however, I also still reserve the right to say that everyone’s tastes are different and your tastes do not inherently make you superior (as your post seems to feel like). All Im saying is that I have yet to find a “meat replacement” that I actually prefer, and that every bad meat dish I’ve had has only been a result of crap preparation.
Agreed, lol. For me, it’s hamburgers. I’ve made hundreds (thousands?) over the years but I’m still very hit-and-miss at it. Sometimes they turn out good, and other times they turn out rubbery or undercooked. Everything else I can cook with pretty good consistency, but burgers are my kryptonite.
Never messed up a Beyond Burger or Impossible Burger though, lol. Those are pretty idiot-proof, at least.
I’ve seen videos but never tried myself. But if you use something large and freezing (like a big thing of ice) you can skim the top with it and the grease grabs into the ice.
INB4
Look at my teeth! I am a carnivorous HUNTER! I stalk the dangerous plains of… Albertsons… with a sharp knife I
forged?bought! at Wal-Mart so I canrundrive home and enjoy memes. Eating meat is my natural state!
Humans are omnivores by default and we’re not even that good apparently at digesting grains or beans. Tell me more about how veganism is your natural state.
veganism is your natural state.
Oh it’s not. But I feel like you are missing my point by assuming I think it is? As a concept, “natural” overrated, meaningless and not worth striving for. Both of us wear shoes, most people wear glasses and the majority of us travel by car. None of that is “natural”, but if you are gonna cite that as a reason to eat meat then why not also go walk through the woods barefoot and nearsighted as well? Nothing about our modern medicine system is natural (but it makes us live longer), traveling to the moon isn’t natural, heck the two of us talking over the internet isn’t natural (but a net connection brings us both radically more knowledge than we would’ve had generations ago). Very little of our lives are so, why should this be a metric to care about?
Say whatever you like about digesting grains, not only do you definitely still eat beans and bread. But if you want to look at the science, there is strong evidence that veganism correlated to longer life, less disease and increased overall health while meat is a known carcinogen. And this totally ignored the environmental and ethical reasons for veganism, those exist.
But at the end of the day everyone should be way more concerned about scientific data, reason and logic than something as nebulous as living “naturally”.
