38 points

lol

lmao, even

Just build a fucking train, it’s stupid that Denmark doesn’t just have rail everywhere. DSB is a joke. Banedanmark is underfunded. Light rail doesn’t go anywhere useful unless you live in Copenhagen. Intercity is way too expensive to matter unless you get discount tickets a month in advance. IC trains are so frequently not-running that it’s become a major point in my buddys argument for working from home.

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Come to BC. We have trains from Vancouver going to Seattle and Portland(via US run Amtrak(70-100$ US), a transit train from Mission to Vancouver and back, once a day each way(5-15$ depending on distance) and a 3000$ a ticket train going to Jasper, Alberta from Vancouver BC and back.

Yaaay Conservatives. Thanks for ruining passenger rail.

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hmmm… surprising, US has similar issues for unsurprising reasons.

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It’s probably the exact same reasons, actually.

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DSB is a joke, Banedanmark is a myth we are all controlled by something greater, TRAINS DNA of public infastructure

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But in Merica Cars are democracy, Denmark shoils build an 80 lane highway

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USA! USA! USA!

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The continental US is roughly 2/3 the size of Europe. Comparing Denmark to it is nonsensical given the differences in size.

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IDK if size really matters here. Connecting Chicago to Milwaukee (100mi) with HSR probably makes sense

there are many others too:

Chicago-Indianapolis (200mi)

Chicago-St Louis (300mi)

Chicago-Pittsburgh (500mi)

so many good connections

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Hydrogen never really made sense for cars, the infrastructure and storage is too expensive. But I wonder if it’d work for trains that haven’t been fully electrified with overhead cables yet. You’d need much less infrastructure at just a few locations.

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On the other hand, my city is trying hydrogen bus.
There is a single refilling station needed.

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Oh that’s a good idea too. If the hydrogen and electricity is green, it’d have less of an environmental than batteries.

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It isn’t. The amount of green hydrogen is a fraction of a fraction a percent of all hydrogen. The rest is all made from natural gas and the CO2 is released into the air. It’s a green washed fossil fuel.

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Today, green hydrogen is essentially an expensive, low-efficiency battery.

That could change with future work on making more efficient hydrolysis, but today, the numbers really don’t work out on green hydrogen vs alternatives like lithium ion or overhead wires for busses.

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Nope. They tried hydrogen trains in Germany and are not buying more of them.

https://www.popsci.com/technology/hydrogen-train-germany/

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How do battery operated work? Are they short rage trains? Or do they have like a car full of batteries? And how do recharge times work? Can they recharge just in the stations? If it works for them, great. And it sounds like it is. It just seemed like there were several problems.

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Battery locomotives don’t have enough range to be useful solo, but they’re a handy to add on to an existing train to give it regenerative braking and improve it’s efficiency.

You want practically zero emissions train, you build overhead catenary wires. But that’s decades old tech that just works, it’s not sexy futuristic stuff.

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Irish Rail is trying this. There was an article posted about it yesterday!

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Other than ideas like synfuels, it is the only thing that makes sense for cars. People are just falling prey to BEV propaganda. You don’t want unsustainable mining and a >400kg battery pack in every car. It is the big act of greenwashing today, and green transportation won’t happen until BEVs are abandoned or scaled way back.

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Unsustainable from a co2 standpoint, ecological damage, or human rights and damage standpoint? I think we’re probably thinking about different sorts of sustainability.

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If you mean the cost of battery mining/production, it’s all three. We currently can’t even make batteries without vast amounts of fossil fuels. And due to many factors like long-duration energy storage problems, BEVs can’t reach net zero without hydrogen anyways.

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I’m from Denmark and I’ve never even heard there were Hydrogen cars around here.

Edit: but then again, I don’t drive a car, so maybe Im just not the target audience.

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Big L for them.

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