Ah, yes, the mythical “Year of the Linux Desktop”—that elusive utopia Linux enthusiasts have been chasing since it’s creation. Newsflash: nobody cares. The year of the Linux desktop isn’t some grand global awakening; it’s just whenever you decide to stop whining about it and install the thing. For me, it was 2002, and guess what? My computer didn’t care either. It just worked. So stop waiting for some cosmic alignment of market share and app support. The year of the Linux desktop is when you make it. Now go forth and sudo (or doas) your destiny…
Can you safely remove sudo and completely switch to doas? I don’t see the point having 2 pieces of software that accomplish the same task.
I think the year of the Linux desktop is imminent, assuming you consider Chrome OS Linux. :/
While I love Linux and wish more people would switch over, I know damn well most people just want to keep using Windows. The people who REALLY want Linux will find it.
Right now I’ve been offering my friends n family who don’t want Win11 two options.
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I help them get started using Linux.
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Or I show them how to get the IoT LTSC branch of Win10 that’ll still get security updates until at the latest 2032.
Most of them including the more tech savy folks just want to keep Win10 with updates, Some have opted to try Linux on a dual boot but few have stuck with it.
A few questions since you seem to know much more about this than I can probably even find from searching:
- What is “IoT”? What is “LTSC”?
- Other than update support, how is this different from my existing home laptop’s Windows 10?
- Is this free? Will there be obnoxious limitations or reminders to pay to activate?
- Why should I as a medium skill home computer user without work needs opt for this over Mint, Ubuntu, Nobara, Arch, or whatever other distro somebody would insist I use? I don’t need Office.
I’m no expert by any means but.
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The the LTSC branch of windows is the enterprise version Microsoft sell only to businesses that require less flashy feature and longer security support since most business don’t update machines frequently. IOT just seems to be the LTSC version with the longest supported update cycle.
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It’s slightly less bloated at least the Win10 version doesn’t come with pre-installed games and didn’t even have the Microsoft store installed by default. It still comes with telemetry but heard some say online they’ve had an easier time disabling it and keeping it disabled on the LTSC versions.
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It’s “free” as in a sandwich you find on the side of the road is free. Microsoft REALLY doesn’t want regular users using their business only services but people always find a way.
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It’s really only for people who currently refuse Linux but also can’t/won’t upgrade to Windows 11. I’m only suggesting it because I’d rather people at least still get security updates than use a completely unsupported OS.
Dope! I appreciate you taking the time! So it sounds like a slightly less bloated version of 10 that gets more support, but it may not be exactly legal and breezy to obtain for my personal home use.
With the possible exception of finding drivers for a device or two, it sounds like I’ll be better off just pivoting to a Linux distro mid 2025. I have been happy with SteamOS on my docked steam deck with m+kb and controller, so I’m sure I won’t be missing much by picking a popular distro that I can find troubleshooting guidance for when I hit inevitable snags.
If they aren’t smart enough to upgrade to 11 then they aren’t smart enough to switch to Linux
I doubt that people aren’t “smart enough”. I’ve seen the ads for windows 11 on my dad’s PC, they are literally full screen banners that guide you right to the upgrade. It couldn’t be more simple and obnoxious. The truth is that people simply don’t want Windows 11.
I would want Windows 11 if it wasn’t a total privacy nightmare. I have been a Windows user for a long time, but MS scared me away the moment the started requiring online accounts. Half my life is on my computer, they can fuck right off with that. Windows is generally pretty good for work computers, but I rather take my private business elsewhere
Well windowd have gon fown the shitter for work computers lately IMO.
Everything is slow, not the programs you’re running but everything taken care of by the OS. Like right click to get the context menu, why does it take real time to pup up? Launch a script, same thing. It’s like everything you do is first “analysed” before you’re “allowed” to do it. Maybe not even locally.
Also the OS shouldn’t get in the way, like you mistakenly write “python3” in the shell, suddenly the “windows shop” opens up, with the extra fuck you telling you that it hasn’t got that python3. Like wtf.
Why do you want people to use Linux? Its a OS with a completely different philosophy, most people don’t care about FOSS.
Because more market share means more fucks to give from companies that make stuff we use.
But it also means more people will try to introduce malware and exploits.
Not saying that hardware makers giving a single fuck about linux would be a bad thing, but rather than a sudden huge increase in desktop linux usage doesn’t sound as good to me as if it happens with time.
Linux is running on the majority of servers worldwide. Even Android, the most popular mobile OS worldwide, is based on a linux kernel. The attack vector is already there, there are billions of devices running linux out there, so it’s not that you are using some obscure operating system.
Security through minority is not a best practice. More support would also lead to hardened security even if it becomes a more lucrative target.
