My girlfriend has threatened to break up with me several times now unless I cut down to a pack a week. I’m not addicted but it does help me get through my day. I keep trying to tell her that but she doesn’t believe me and keeps saying that it’s actually bad. I want to prove to my girlfriend that smoking cigarettes is actually good for you so that she can stop judging me over it but I can’t find any info online to back that up. Can anyone help me find some resources that list the health benefits of cigarettes? Like how nicotine kills germs or anything like that?

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Why is no one talking about the controlling girlfriend? If - hypothetically - smoking was bad for you, he’d only hurt himself. So why does she care??

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Second-hand smoking. Not only is it bad for you, it is also bad for your entourage. Numerous countries are forbidding smoking in the same space as children for that exact reason.

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I’ve never talked about smoking used cigarettes. Of course that’s bad for you, duh…

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That’s not what second-hand smoking is. Smoking around others will cause them to suffer the negative effects of the smoke as well. This is especially bad around children.

Also, the argument that “it hurts no one but themselves” is a really weird one. Does you not wish the best for your loved one? If you saw your daughter or husband or wife hurting themselves, would it be “controlling” for you to try to get them to stop doing it?

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https://www.tobaccoinaustralia.org.au/chapter-3-health-effects/3-28-health-benefits-of-smoking-

There’s reason to believe there are specific benefits from smoking tobacco. It’s just that they are pretty much always outweighed by the negative effects of smoking in the long term.

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Thank you for actually helping me find some useful and true information.

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When presenting the information to your girlfriend, please be completely honest and make sure to also show the Important Note that the researchers put at the front.

Important note: smoking may offer a limited degree of protection in some individuals against the development of a small number of diseases, outlined below. However, this information is of little relevance to public health, given that the amount of disease that tobacco may be said to prevent is insignificant in comparison with the far greater incidence of disease caused by smoking. Tobacco products kill one in two of their long-term users.

Half of long-term smokers die to smoking. Even if you think you can quit, the point of this study is to show that even having looked for benefits, they could only find a negligible amount of benefits compared to the harms of smoking.

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You’re welcome.

I quit after over 20 years. It was really, really hard. I still crave them. Won’t start again, just because quitting was so incredibly difficult. But, yeah. I, uh, think about it… Both sides of it.

Be aware, I cherry picked the information you had asked for from a much larger work. Just “Chapter 3 - The health effects of active smoking” has 37 sections. Everyone but the one I linked above has a list of negative effects. Have a look at the rest of it, too.

Chapter 3 Index: https://www.tobaccoinaustralia.org.au/chapter-3-health-effects

Don’t just confirm your biases. Look at the whole picture.

Wish you the best.

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I’m kind of worried about quitting, since I’ve heard it is difficult to start again afterwards.

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From their link:

Important note: smoking may offer a limited degree of protection in some individuals against the development of a small number of diseases, outlined below.

However, this information is of little relevance to public health, given that the amount of disease that tobacco may be said to prevent is insignificant in comparison with the far greater incidence of disease caused by smoking. Tobacco products kill one in two of their long-term users.

Why don’t you just get the health benefits in other ways that don’t include cancer?

Nicotine patches are better than cigarettes and vaping.

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they cost 50 USD a box, not everyone is so privileged

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Seriously tho, you just want/hope to find something that justifies you continuing smoking. The truth is, you have to stop. No kind of smoke is good for the lungs; cigs, weed, vape, etc. Stop before it’s too late, and it’s not just cancer that can kill you

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Lmao nice b8, m8

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Cigarettes are a nootropic which increases your cognitive ability, increases free testosterone, helps with weight loss too.

My grandfather grew his own tobacco and drank a flask of rum and smoked a cigar every day and he lived to 102, don’t listen to all the CDC FUD in the thread!

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Thank you for supporting me in this. Everyone back in the fifties smoked, even famous people. Its only now that you’re there’s bad health associated with it.

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Only now? We’ve known from the very beginning that it was unhealthy. It was never a secret. What sort of brainrot is this?

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Nice anectdote. Decades of medical research must be wrong.

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so does tobacco not cause an increase in free testosterone, cognitive ability or help with weight loss? I can dig up studies to prove my claims but I want to see you disprove them first.

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As a former pack a day smoker, you’re right that it does those things. It also causes cancer and other health problems, your pickled and smoked grandfather notwithstanding. (Also, cigars are not inhaled which causes lower rates of cancer than cigarettes.)

If you want to have better cognitive ability, lose weight and, have more free testosterone you’re better off lifting weights regularly. All of those benefits but none of the lung cancer.

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Are you aware that not a single “nootropic” has ever been shown to make a difference in controlled studies? Forget just nicotine, even using the word “nootropic” is like saying “detox juice” or “chakra alignment”. It immediately lets everyone who hears you know that you’re the most gullible person in the room.

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Are you aware that not a single “nootropic” has ever been shown to make a difference in controlled studies? Forget just nicotine, even using the word “nootropic” is like saying “detox juice” or “chakra alignment”. It immediately lets everyone who hears you know that you’re the most gullible person in the room.

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This is satire, right?

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I am seeking serious advice here.

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The advise is unanimous: “stop smoking”

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C- level trolling I think.

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