Disclaimer: Fuck the rich and please consider reading 1 paragraph before you go to comments to explain how I am a bootlicker. Thank you ٩(•͈ ꇴ •͈)و ̑̑❀
For context, I generally report all calls to violence, no matter who the “victim” is, whether they are a public figure or an anonymous user. I didn’t even register that the person I was “defending” was rich—I’m just aware that calls to violence are against most instances’ terms of service (due to legal threats). Genuinely sorry seahorse! I wish you just had something in your instance sidebar or even spoke to me instead of jumping to ban and “lib” insults!
Unverifiable information you will have to take my word for (per community rules)
Apologized to seahorse and got:
My own personal curiosities only adjacently related
Correct me if I’m wrong, isn’t this a bit of an abuse of federation? This is the same admin that pulled the move with the doxxing of Nick Fuentes. By banning users for reporting content that may violate our local instance rules, seahorse is making our local instances harder to moderate for our admins. (Honestly I respect the commitment to the running a very open and uncensored instance, but until Lemmy has the option to only report to local admins versus local & federated authorities, this may not be the best strategy?)
Anyway, this is pretty interesting. I’m honestly not too pressed about this (mostly I will miss !theonion@midwest.social) and curious what yall think. :)
Okay, that listed reason is so five-year-old-on-a-sugar-high that I ain’t even mad. Like, it goes beyond power tripping into comedy via absurdity.
However, if you’re running around playing playground monitor, I can’t say I blame them. Report abuse is a thing, and depending on how far you’re taking it, it could well be absurdist as well
I’ll be honest ‘libbity lib lib’ has now made me laugh multiple times while scrolling.
Obviously I didn’t keep count but I can’t have made more than maybe 1-3 reports in the last day? Believe me I hear you though! That’s why I was so apologetic to him and reached out before posting here. I hate to he a nuisance and genuinely just try to help people out haha.
That’s not much, imo. Certainly not nuisance or troll levels at all. Hell, I don’t think I would even notice that many considering that word of mouth has most instances generating at least dozens of reports a day. Not that word of mouth is exactly reliable, but as a rough guesstimate of things, someone making good faith reports at that frequency is nothing.
For damn sure it would merit a “bugger off” before even a temp ban
I invite anyone reading this comment to time themselves on how long it takes to DM me “chill with the reports or ban” and report back
PTB
I’ve verified the modlog. @seahorse@midwest.social actually banned someone with the rational that they were reporting calls to violence.
An admin. How unfortunate. Looks like I’ll be leaving Lordofthememes on Midwest.social
PugJesus “defederating” from you is a larger loss than most complete instances would be
It really feels like the mod tools of lemmy need to be a bit more fine grained. A button to ignore all further reports from a person would have gone a long way here.
as an admin, what would you think about separate buttons to report to local mods versus the mods of the community’s host instance?
I think that would be a very good feature, Also I honestly think Federated reports should have user-data stripped out of them. Just like on Mastodon, it prevents harassment and abuse from malicious remote servers towards the users who reported the content. Probably also don’t show it to community mods, I was abused and harassed relentlessly by a malicious community mod who used my reports as fuel for more abusive behavior.
i.e. Instead of a report coming from me on this server, you’d see it as from lemmy.dbzer0.com, and for mods on the same server it would say “local user report” but still show the name to admins.
Admins could configure if local mods could see report names but remote mods and remote server admins would just see domain name.
Libbity lib lib
Who tf is this? Elmer Fudd?
![Can’t remember exactly where or about whom I reported but it was to the effect of “someone please kill [this person]”(lemmy.cafe)](https://lemmy.cafe/pictrs/image/d2276497-bd1c-4d25-9a79-135799319e54.webp){kind=link}
Usually if numerous frivolous reports were getting on someone’s nerves they would warn you first. I’m guessing there was a big backlog to clear around certain comments. Thanks for making reports, even if I wouldn’t completely agree with the threshold you use, personally.
“Libbity lib lib…” is a non-reason for a community ban, the admin in question would be better off being honest and just ban you from the instance with the reason “i’m tired of getting your stupid reports”, and be done with it.
It’s fine for an admin to run things the way they want, but handling it in this unclear way reflects poorly on them, and the silly reason just shows how much someone can be stuck up their own ass.
The “honest reason” is that the moderator in question disagrees with OP.
The moderator believes that the wealthy should be punished corporally for the catastrophic harm they have inflicted upon humanity for generations through their parasitism and believes that it is morally right to champion such punishment.
OP has demonstrated the position that calling for this punishment is morally wrong.
This was an impasse.
The moderator decided that opinions such as OP’s are not welcome there, and therefore chose to remove OP.
We’re not going to find detached impassive professionalism or even-handedness here, no matter how hard we dig for it. It’s just politically motivated suppression of opposed opinions through and through.
I get that and I agree that that could be the admin’s intent. Admins can have opinions and operate their server based on them. What reflects poorly on this admin is how they handle it immaturely in a hexbearish fashion, when the same opinion can be expressed a lot more clearly.
beyond the immaturity, what’s much more confusing to me is why there is a need to moralize the report button, both from the admin and the comments here.
when i click “report” it’s never to try to do censorship or push an agenda or something. it’s genuinely a “hey i found this that either violates your rules or might get you in legal trouble if it happens a lot, address it if you want but in the end it’s totally your call.” i personally think that’s the appropriate use of the feature? there’s a reason the icon is a flag, not a middle finger haha
but i guess i am learning other people are really into using reports as a “personal grievances” tool or something, and they are projecting that understanding of the tool back on to me.
OP has demonstrated the position that calling for this punishment is morally wrong.
False. If you reread my post (or read it for the first time, perhaps) you will find three key statements:
- I generally report all calls to violence, no matter who the “victim” is.
- I didn’t even register that the person I was “defending” was rich.
- I have no interest in protecting the rich—just keeping the instances I know and love up and running.
Depending on an instance’s local government situation, instance admins can be held liable by law for hosting certain content, and therefore many instances have rules against calls to violence. I don’t even agree it’s a morally good or optimal system, it’s just how it is.
Out of this understanding, along with reporting the much more common slurs, racism, sexism, etc. I occasionally also report calls to violence. This is not out of any political interest; I am just helping admins keep house.
Anyway, thank you for your suuuuuper good-faith reading of my post, and I trust you’ll do the same for this comment. /s
You might want to look up the definition of corporal punishment, because you are absolutely opposing corporal punishment when you report a post that advocates violence as punishment.
Being opposed to corporal punishment by default is not a bad thing.