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Good, it’s about time the lie of Do Not Track was put to bed. It gives people a false sense of control over their data and privacy - the intention was good but if it’s not enforced then it makes people think they’ve done something to protect their privacy when they have done nothing.

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plus it was another data point for profiling people based on their browser settings.

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25 points

It was also possible to be used as part of a fingerprint.

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Its removal is as useful in preventing fingerprinting as its presence was in protecting privacy.

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38 points

This is sad and yet another step backwards for Firefox. Yes, not many websites honored it, but some did and automatically set cookie preferences accordingly. There should’ve been more lobbying for this to become legally binding within the EU instead.

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It was a double-edged sword. While websites could honor it, it could also be abused as another data point for fingerprinting.

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13 points

Even more reason to make it legally binding.

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Legalism mentality is cringe, we need solutions that work against criminals who don’t care. When people push for legalist solutions it shows they have no real understanding of how the world actually works and just want to complain about what people should and shouldn’t do.

Shoulds are irrelevant in this world, people do what they want, even if it is illegal, in the digital world where there are way less clues left behind of illegal activity we need solutions that actually do something, like actually blocking those trackers, or feeding false fingerprint data that changes everytime or is exactly the same as other browsers. Not expecting the providers to follow the law, they believe they are above the law until they get caught, then they’ll act apologetic and start doing it again.

Your assumption is based on the idea that these people are not criminals, which is wrong.

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How are you going to prove that this particular metric was used to fingerprint? That’s the issue I have - you can identify cookies, pixel trackers etc but there’s no way to prove whether a site uses a flag you send anyways. And enforcing something that can’t be proven is really hard - currently, not only the easy rules are enforced.

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It did basically nothing and just made you easier to identify and gave false sense of privacy. Good riddance imo

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It was like wearing a technicolor badge with flashers that said “don’t look at me” while playing the sound from Inception.

It made you more trackable because the entire ad industry ignored it. While there were a true, TRUE handful of sites that respected it, those are never the sites usually it was meant to deal with.

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Presumably it’s easier to lobby for something that’s already legally enforced elsewhere. And sometimes lobbying is just unsuccessful.

With a reasonable alternative available, removing the additional fingerprinting vector seems like the best idea to avoid tracking. The few good actors can look at the Global Privacy Control instead, so there’s literally no downside here.

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How’s that different?

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GPC? It’s different because there’s already a jurisdiction that legally enforces it.

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Yeah, and I’ve been seeing more lately…

At least the forks will probably keep it…

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How about the rare sites that respected it 🤔

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I bet all 6 of them will be really upset.

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If you respect it odds are that you aren’t part of the problem to begin with.

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why would small sites track you to begin with?

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Talking about odysee,broadcomm,at&t,etc

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so not small at all. i see you corrected the post too.

the main response to that is: how do you know they respect it?

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If you wish to ask websites to respect your privacy, you can use the “Tell websites not to sell or share my data” setting. This option is built on top of the Global Privacy Control (GPC). GPC is respected by increasing numbers of sites and enforced with legislation in some regions. To learn more about this, please read Global Privacy Control.

So those sites can look at that.

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Ohh it’s forced by law in some countries, sounds better ngl.

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DNT is going to give a false sense of security.

  • like leaving your shop door open when you go out for lunch and posting a sign saying ‘Don’t come in here and steal’.

It only works for websites who respect it, but leads users to think they’re somehow ‘protected’.

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Privacy focussed engineers add DNT feature to browsers…

Marketeer assholes: hey, another tracking data point!

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