119 points

They’re trying every angle they can think of to avoid admitting that people didn’t react negatively to this because literally everyone in the country has been negatively affected by people like that CEO.

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people didn’t react negatively to this because literally everyone in the country has been negatively affected by people like that CEO.

Also outside the US country. I’m Brazilian, I’ve been following the news about this event, and I can’t help but notice there’s a hope inside me that this event could somehow result in CEOs all around the world (especially in the southern hemisphere) changing and ditching their greed. Well, of course it’s very unlikely to happen, maybe I have some tiny optimistic side buried under tons of massive pessimism of mine.

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28 points

I’ve been hoping it won’t be the last CEO to get deposed.

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That’s what the NYT and others are afraid of. Copycats making this a trend and then the whole situation spiraling into French Revolutiom 2.0, or heavens forbid, October Revolution 2.0

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changing and ditching their greed

No they won’t because while they of course are greedy, it’s not really greed which is fueling that on the systemic level, but the inherent capitalism mechanism to concentrate capital. Companies compete and that competition ultimately leads to either monopoly or formation of cartel, the ones with more profits are the winners and the losers get eliminated from the market.

What they will do, is to hire more bodyguards, isolate themselves from society even more and fund more propaganda like the article in topic.

The only thing that can change things, as proven historically, is not adventurism (however cool is to dish at least minuscule part of overdue justice) nor the spontaneous outrage, but the organized workers power threatening the capitalist class and their government servants.

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3 points

I get you, but let us have hope for 5 minutes. It’s more than we’ve had in our whole lives.

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8 points

They won’t, they’ll tighten their security. Anyone who goes against the shareholders will be removed and replaced by somebody who will maximize profits at all costs.

Doesn’t mean there won’t be copycats who are successful. A whole lot of people have been wronged and the justice system doesn’t work.

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In another sense: these CEOs are the people responsible for infiltrating other countries with the shitty US model of healthcare.

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It won’t happen, best we can hope for is that it tempers the greed for a bit.

It would need to happen a few (dozen) more times to effect real change.

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If I believed in a deep state (which I categorically do not) NYT would be part of it.

I do, however, believe in giant media companies funded by the 1%, who have just lost one of their own to one of the plebs, staffed by management who will steer things in the needed direction. Any doubt I had of that has been destroyed by their coverage of Gaza.

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If I believed in a deep state (which I categorically do not)

It’s very real, it’s just not anything like what far-right conspiracy theorists think it is[1][2][3].

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1 point

What do you mean by deep state?

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3 points

I’ve seen multiple stories about the positive reactions.

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83 points

NYT is as corpo as media can get. We must remember what side they are on. Journalism is dead.

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I was listening to the radio this morning and the dude was saying he’d rather have CEO shootings in the news than all the school shootings. It’s not dead, it’s just hard to find a pulse.

https://www.podbean.com/ep/pb-rfj2f-1765e1f

Here I was heavily paraphrasing.

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14 points

NYT has always been pro-corporate.

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11 points

Law/justice is also dead, especially as folks stop believing in any piece of state evidence.

Two seconds later it could be you or me who are picked up and demonized for random stuff.

Truthfully this is my image state power. They make shiat up 100% of the time. So it’s not a question of is it true or not. It’s a question of how they are lying. Like a puzzle to be solved or exposed for the entertainment, but even that eventually grows old. Oh a cop MSM or a politician corpo said it … pfft!

Citizens don’t believe anything out of the State or Media. Obviously not a healthy situation when everyone is considered an actor.

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Truthfully this is my image state power. They make shiat up 100% of the time.

Citizens don’t believe anything out of the State or Media.

This is not how most people view information from the state or media. There’s a much higher degree of skepticism than in the past, sure, but most people aren’t going to simply believe every cop (or especially every journalist) is lying 100% of the time.

I don’t think it does the left any favors to take this stance, either. It makes us look contrarian (because it is contrarian) rather than grounded in reality.

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At this point, why care about reality? Just conjure an illusion for a few days. Rinse wash and repeat. The same goes for witnesses and evidence presented by the state in court.

Completely unbelievable.

Was there any accomplished FOSS dev present? No? Well no one of credibility to be a witness or present evidence. Everyone possibly there are the equivalent of children.

I believe exactly what i wrote.

The above is my mind virus gift to world+dog

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10 points

Wtf. Journalism is definitely not dead. We just need to stop linking to corporate news outlets.

Zateo, democracy now, the intercept, truth out, common dreams, etc. There’s loads of great media outlets out there…

Maybe we should just ban the corporate ones from this community? Or create a new community that only allows links to nonprofit news outlets?

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2 points

Yeah. When people complain that the media is dead or that the narrative is controlled regardless of sources, they usually talk about the mainstream/corporate media. They don’t go their way to find alternative or “underground” sources shall we say.

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2 points

Yeah I wouldn’t call any of these sites underground. If we dont know about them, blame Lemmy users and mods.

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8 points

The NYT is at least partly responsible for the Iraq war 2. Fuck them.

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75 points

Corporate media is going to protect their advertisers by shotgunning bullshit articles trying to change the narrative

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25 points

“For the love of God, please stop looking up!” —Corporate Media

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72 points

The classic scapegoats aren’t there this time. Can’t blame him being the wrong race, wrong economic class, wrong mentally, wrong physically, or wrong sexually. Now people are actually looking at the issue that caused the “crime” and that’s not good to some people.

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47 points

Pretty successful and well off kid, definitely not just someone desperate and broke they can tear apart, and he’s articulating his position against these fuckers. It’s really beautiful. A folk hero.

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18 points

Luigi is deff what the media has fed society as “CHAD”

Not even being ironic here tbh

Now the only explanation why Chad would do this is “he had bad back”

Alright… go on…

FDR was also part of the elite class and he had his own issues…

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58 points

Not a criminal until a guilty verdict…

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26 points

It’s also not a crime to eradicate a parasite.

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16 points

I mean it’s a “crime” technically but that doesn’t mean we can’t nullify it!

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8 points

Yes breaking the law is a “crime” but to be a criminal you need to have the verdict saying you committed it. Innocent until proven and all. A “not guilty” or null result means not a criminal.

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Not a crime against society, so possibly not a crime.

The word, crime, is subjective. Much like the word, value.

Really what is wanted is play court and feel special.

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2 points

I mean i agree ethically and morally. I was just commenting on NYT not understanding how laws work.

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2 points

Except in texas

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1 point

Lest we forget, “He needed killin’” was a successful defense against a murder charge in Texas, once upon a time.

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Depends on how it’s eradicated.

If the actual assassin, not the patsy, really wanted to make sure. He might be capable of making really really sure.

Dropping a tank on it or destroying a city block might not be beyond his pay grade.

A BB gun is not making sure. Just a bit cleaner and quieter.

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9 points

Thank you!

Being neutral cute both ways, he is innocent until a jury of his peers decide to vote guilty.

Just hope he doesn’t sign a confession, there is plenty of resources for him to fight this.

Also, I think all people charged with a crime deserve this benefit or the doubt.

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There’s that word again

What peers?

The rando software dev is a genius being extradited to a State full of boot lickers and sell outs.

His peers are minimally accomplished well known FOSS devs.

There should be a higher burden of evidence which includes reproducible unittests and his peers should be well acquainted with writing maintainable and sufficient test suites.

Then lets talk about peers and courts.

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Guilty until proven innocent is nonsense. We are beyond that already.

Just a patsy

Using the term criminal is just demonizing a random guy.

The State and it’s officers are just illusionists. They can’t present evidence or be witnesses. Cuz they are unbelievable.

So far that is all they got. So when anyone uses the term criminal, i jump straight to innocent and civil suit

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