Needs boobs and hotness.
Yeah, because being objectified and sexualised from before you even hit puberty, having fewer rights (including those to your own body), getting paid less for the same work and not at all for all the work that isn’t considered work by men like raising kids and running a home, wondering if we’re one of the women who WILL statistically get murdered by their partner on any given week, being subjected to near constant rape threats and almost certainly (again, statistically it’s pretty much all women) surviving sexual harassment and abuse if not rape too and then facing an entire system dedicated to discrediting and blaming you while protecting the abusers (“wouldn’t want to ruin his life over a bit of fun”), as well as having to deal with misogynistic asshats such as yourself who convince themselves that because men buy us drinks at bars (in an expectation of sex, of course) we’ve got it easy, and pretend none of the other things are happening because it’s easier to gaslight your victims than it is to accept that you’re a massive and active part of the problem, on a daily basis, is a real fucking treat…
Ass.
Also @spujb@lemmy.cafe - I think this thread would fit right in to your collection.
All of this is framed from a US perspective, I apologize to the extent that it’s relevant.
getting paid less for the same work
Essentially not a real thing, and if it is happening at a particular employer it’s illegal and time to sue. The wage gap that’s published is measured as the difference in median total earnings for full time year round workers by sex, and any attempt to constrain it further to be “for the same work” (like adjusting for industry, role, hours worked, experience, etc) rapidly causes it to diminish. It is at it’s heart an artifact of differences in the average life path of men and women - to the point that young, childless, urban, educated women actually earn more than similar men.
and not at all for all the work that isn’t considered work by men like raising kids and running a home
Taking care of one’s home/family isn’t paid work for anyone, regardless of sex. Men aren’t paid for more stereotypically male housework either, like lawn maintenance, cleaning gutters, dealing with pests, plumbing or electrical, that sort of thing. If you do domestic work for another household, generally you do get paid for it.
Also, there’s no third party mandating anything about how your household divides the tasks necessary to keep things going - you negotiate your own division of household labor with any partner(s) or roommate(s). For example in my household my wife and I both work full time, and for most “departments” of stuff that need done we each take a role. She does the laundry, I fold and put away (because her clothes have more complicated cleaning directions, and it’s harder for her to lift and haul stuff around). Whoever cooked doesn’t do dishes. I bring in groceries, she puts them up (the steps and heavy lifting are easier for me). Etc, etc.
again, statistically it’s pretty much all women
Dig deeper into those stats. Specifically, look at the differences in numbers that measure recent victimization versus longer periods. What you tend to see is the more “fresh” the experience is (looking at recent months or years rather than lifetime) the more likely men are to report it (almost as though men are repeatedly told by society that they can’t be victims of sexual assault and doubly can’t be the victim of a woman until they internalize it so they mentally file those experiences away as something else [if you can’t be a victim then what happened can’t be a violation]- I’m speaking from experience on that one) and previous 12 month numbers fare closer to like a 60/40 split presuming you don’t also do some trickery of categorization where (for example) ways a woman are likely to sexually assault a man get filed into a subcategory of “other” to make the comparison less obvious, with women being a majority of perpetrators against men (ignoring the incarcerated of course because then men are a large majority of both perpetrators and victims - there’s a reason term “rape culture” was originally coined to describe prison).
Haha, take that, white people!! You’ve got it so easy, apparantly!
It’s not prejudiced, though.
inb4 but I’m white and had a hard life - it could’ve been even harder.
Easier
Although I’d love to see more class-conscious memes and activism.
Yes, it’s harder to be black/hispanic/asian in many places. Yes, it’s harder to be a woman. Yes, it’s harder to be LGBT, especially T. But what really sucks so hard and hits almost all of us (and minorities often get it even worse due to workplace discrimination and lower rates of ownership!) is the oppression of the working class.
Our most unscrupulous and evil oppressors don’t lose all that much from retranslating slogans about equality between people of all genders, races, sexual orientations etc.; in fact, they will play chameleon and pretend to support any dominant rhetoric - except the one that can actually make a giant change, but at their expense - the rhetoric of a class war. Combine this with corporate power and reach, and you’ll see how we got to addressing literally anything but not the elephant in the room.
Worker-led societies generally promote equal access to jobs, education and services to people of all ethnicities, genders and other traits, bolster a culture of global friendship and cooperation, and promote sustainable development that puts people - all people - first.
It’s in our common interest to put class war as our very first priority - for the greater good of us all.
Where is it harder to be hispanic or black? In Hispanola or Africa? Life isn’t equally oppressive across the entire world
Oh, me, me! I’m based in the US, but here are a few 🤗
- It’s harder for us to get loans for businesses. Most financial services are either harder or more expensive (Ex: You live in the hood and want to start a business, the area you’re in is “coded” a certain way, and you get higher loan rates because they assume you to be more risky by default)
- A lot of POC are behind in generational wealth/security because they were barred from communities and businesses that could have been passed down
- We are paid less
- Neighborhoods with high POC population usually get less funding
- Less political power because of how the counties were purposely broken up, so our voices aren’t heard as loudly
- Racial profiling
- We are more likely to get arrested, and serve harsher sentences
- Until recently (and still in some places), natural kinky hair had to be “fixed.”
- Colorism
- People with heavy accents (not limited to Hispanics of course) can have a harder time at jobs, especially if they’re phone base as people can be mad disrespectful
- In our current political environment, Latin Americans are the target of a lot of vitriol, illegal or not
- I can’t speak for Latin Americans, but when traveling, Black people have to worry about different things like: Are they racist? If so, how much? Will they let me in businesses? If I’m going for work, will they let me? If I’m not rich, will I still be treated well? We can’t just go back packing, because many countries will not be hospitable, either due to race, skin color, or both
- Being spoken too in slang because they assume that’s how you talk
- For hobbies, cosplay. POC are routinely dragged for not being the right color or what have you
- For kids, they are seen as older and more dangerous than other non-POC their age and therefore are treated harsher
- “Don’t send no Mexicans to my house” - Actual customer
- Even if you get a job, you may be taken off a job because of your skin (there are plenty of stories of people who refuse POC doctors, nurses, etc. I personally was not able to teach a child when abroad because of my skin color, even though I was the only one with a degree).
- Having your name, apperence, hair style mocked, until it’s been absorbed by white culture and becomes “cool.”
- Having your accolades covered up or ignored (A modern example would be that Renegade dance. The creator was a black girl, but a white girl took off with it. They even had her teaching a dance she didn’t create)
- If a show or movie has a POC in it, you have to brace yourself for cries of “wokeness,” even before the movie is out
- Being assumed as a diversity hire, regardless of your cardentials
- Something a bit more basic, but make up, hair products, etc. A lot of viral trends are shown on pale skin only, and some popular products don’t make darker colors at all, or very few shades. It wasn’t until I was in high school that I could find my regular hair products outside of a beauty supply shop.
- POC women and girls are hyper sexualized and are often see as the cause for physical and sexual abuse instead of the victim
- “You speak so well.”
- “Are you the first person in your family to finish highschool/college?”
- Being the only black kid on the class when they start the slavery lessons.
- “Don’t you speak English!?”
- For black women, we are routinely mocked not just outside our race, but inside. Many black men don’t fuck with black women because they drank the kool-aid
- Having to regulate your feelings because you don’t want to be the “angry” black person
- “Oh, I didn’t meant you. You’re one of the good ones.”
Of course, these have different levels of severity, some of these are not just applicable to POC, but this was a sampler of you will. Hope that helps!
Yes, it’s harder to be a woman.
Depends heavily on context. For example, for virtually anything involving the criminal justice system it’s easier to be a woman. In some careers it’s easier to be a woman (for example, anything to do with children). I could come up with more examples if you want.
The race thing is just a diversion from the fact that financial prosperity is the true great division that separates us. But just keep believing that white people have it easier just because they’re white, because that’s much better for the oligarchs.
I think you need to look at prison sentencing disparities if you don’t think white people have it easier than black people.
Everybody is ridiculous. I’m not saying people aren’t racist, but there’s no way to act on that fact. Go ahead and try lol. Now if you had money, it wouldn’t matter because you could afford a good lawyer to keep you out of trouble. Not everybody can be rich, but at least they can act on it. Good luck “acting on racism” because everybody already knows and nobody is going to change their mind if they’re already racist.
Do whatever you want!
Racism itself is promoted and maintained by the ruling class because white supremacy serves to undermine class consciousness. The same playbook is uses for other forms of marginalization, but race is the most strongly maintained in the United States due to chattel slavery and the ruling class’ investment in it.
What this means is that while class is the major material dividing line that societal forces follow, racism is also a potent force. Just because it gets the oxygen it needs to survive from the continued class war does not mean that racism itself does not exist and make the lives of black people, brown people, etc harder. And white people do have it easier just because they’re white. So if you say otherwise, those who know better will not listen to you.
So, instead of going the route that dismisses the impact of racism, instead acknowledge that class and race oppressions are intertwined and that the former drives the latter, so we need to end capitalism in order to undo marginalization. And to do so in solidarity means you also need to take an anti-racist line and stand in solidarity with marginalized people.
The Monkey-Paw Twist on this comes later when he goes to pee.
I’ve got a joke on this that would not be received well due to the overuse of multiple stereotypes.
Then why did you even comment? What was the point?
Make the joke, receive the potential backlash or just dint say anything.
Don’t bother responding to people like this. This is the internet version of that one annoying kid that showed up on the playground, claimed they could beat everyone in Mario Kart, then never played wgen presented the chance and instead told some made up story about how they stole their parent’s car to buy drugs or some bullshit.
