I should have stayed home with my cats and ordered take-out. The gays are just as transphobic as anyone else. Fuck people. I opened myself up and I’m mad I did.

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Fuck that guy. You do you, and don’t let dumb shits like them bring you down.

ETA: fuck them* I had assumed by gay op meant guy. Sorry.

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Well, fuck her. I was happy I made a new friend. I was very wrong. Full disclosure: I disagreed with her regarding celebrities and assault allegations. I learned (well I guess I already knew) when I disagree with a cis woman about something - I’m “not a real woman anyways”. My identity hinges on being a good little pet for the cis. Fuck that.

(For the record, my first instinct is to believe the alleged victims of sex assualt. I know it takes a lot of courage to come forward. It’s just that when large sums of money are involved, I prefer to let the courts decide. How monstrous, and manly, of me).

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Ah ok sorry for the confusion. Edited my comment.

And yeah she can fuck off.

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No need to be sorry at all. I think it’s important for people to know that actually, a lot of the transphobia women like me face comes not from violent men, but rather other women. At least that’s been my experience.

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Ah, a nuanced opinion. That’s just too much for some people to process. I’m sorry you went through that. Bad enough that they couldn’t accept the difference of opinion, but finding the most painful way to claw at your soul stinks of cruelty to me, perhaps you’re lucky they showed their true colours on day one.

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Fair enough on showing true colours sooner rather than later, but last day of Pride and the big bash still feels like cruel timing. I almost never go out to Pride, especially not alone. Should have trusted my usual instinct on that one.

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She probably knew what would hurt most and used that. Doesn’t help much at the moment, but maybe it takes the tip off. It’s shit you lost a potential friend, but at least you lost a hurtful person at the same time.

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Ohhh I already wanted to give this person a big slap but now I wish I could give them a big double slap! In Minecraft

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Why in Minecraft??

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That sucks to have such an invalidating end to what should be an inclusive day, and it’ll sorry yoy experienced that. Tbh it kind of sounds like the trash took herself out of your life if she’s not able to respo d to a difference of opinion with respect and grace. May you find much better friends than her.

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If I were drunk and angry, that position might earn you being called a “pick me,” ngl, but that’s because you’re a woman. Such an opinion is no reason to question your gender identity, because there is no opinion so bad it changes who you are or justifies harming you in that way. Period. You’re a woman, and no dickhead gets to take that from you just because they’re mad.

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I’m wondering if the person who called OP not a real woman was coming from a similar place to drunk and angry you.

Most charitably, she probably thinks it’s okay to call what she thinks are “pick me” women “not real women,” because according to her you can never arrive at that opinion unless your worldview is unduly influenced by trying to please men, unless you are actively trying to come off as “on the men’s side” so that some man sees you say that and rates you a little higher in his “dateable or not” scale. No real woman with non-man-pleasing motivations would ever disagree with her on that topic unless the woman was actively trying to get picked by a man. Dismiss all disagreement by namecalling them as “not a real woman.”

Or she probably thinks that having (what she sees as) an extremely harmful opinion justifies hurting the other because hurting them teaches them not to have bad opinions… somehow… Having a “pick me” opinion means your entire gender is fake because non-trans women would never ever once have the Bad Opinion, and trans women are “fake” women who don’t have the Real Lifetime Gender Experience to arrive at the One True Good Opinion.

That ain’t it. We don’t misgender awful cis people, so why are we doing it to trans people? The answer is “to hurt,” but it also has the extra effect of “if you step out of line your identity is no longer valid, trans acceptance is entirely conditional on always having the perfect opinion, otherwise we’ll whip you back into shape with some prime invalidation.” Of making onlooking trans people doubt whether they’re really accepted, whether they pulled out the invalidation to be hurtful and they still are for trans rights, or if they pulled it out because they genuinely think you can’t be trans but are willing to pretend for the nice people and go mask-off when sufficiently angered.

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“Not a real woman” as if trans women are not also the victims of assault by horrible men…

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And as if somehow it’s a requirement to dismiss other women’s stories of assault to qualify for feminity.

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I’m so sorry this happened to you!

Allow this gay to say: you are 100% a real woman, full stop.

And anyone who thinks otherwise is a transphobic asshole, not a queer ally or interested in queer liberation, and you are better off without them in your life.

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I second this gay!

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I am so so so sorry that happened to you. That is so incredibly fucked up and not okay. The fact this happened at Pride is just…so heartbreaking. I am a cis-het male, but I inevitably cry tears of joy every year at our local Pride festival because there are so many people from across the entire LGBTQ2IAS+ community in our very conservative/religious city who get so much shit from judgmental bigots, every day of the year, but Pride is a time when they are not just accepted, but fucking CELEBRATED! Friend, if the hater who spewed those lies to you won’t celebrate you, I sure as hell will. Such_lettuce7970, I dont know you IRL, but judging from your post history you use Linux, and youre here on the threadiverse, and you have seem to have a heart for sharing vulnerability with others which is such an incredible gift for all of us to be blessed by. You’re a fucking cool-ass woman, and I hope you are able to find people IRL who are able to validate that about yourself. Sending a handful of soldarity tears and many, many loving vibes your way (and if you’re cool with it, some WiFi hugs as well). Youre a fucking treasure, and your cats are lucky as shit to be able to hang out with you.

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Is okay. Aside from my cool-ass cats I’ve got a cool-ass wife too. She’s my joy. She fills my heart.

It’s just, well I feel like it would be more fair to her for me to have more platonic friends too. I try. I tried.

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I’m glad you have a wife that is supportive.

I hear you about platonic friends. Its really hard to make friends as an adult. I’m in the same boat. My wife has friends because she’s lived in this town for decades, but I’m an immigrant who’s only been here since 2019 and 80% of the other people in our town drive pickup trucks and think vaccines kill people. The struggle is real. Whatever its worth I’m proud of you for putting yourself out there. I dont have the courage to try that so much myself.

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Are you in Canada too? I’m in Ontario.

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Bitch was just mad that you’re more of a woman than they’ll ever be.

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well fuck that! i’m so sorry that happened to you!

you don’t need anyone’s permission to be yourself. ❤️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

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