185 points

An entire industry built on taking money they didn’t earn to deny the care our doctors prescribe for us… Are we stupid??

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I mean, the electorate keeps voting for people who won’t pass health care reform so… Yes?

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worse, we vote for healthcare reforms that would take us back to when no one poor got any care at all. we elected our own killers

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Those people are the only options on the ballot though. We can’t vote for something that’s not an option

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The fuck are you talking about? First of all, primaries exist. Secondly, with only a few notable exceptions, Democrats favor single-payer. The original ACA was a government healthcare bill with a private option but Joe Lieberman was the holdout and gutted it. Stating otherwise is intellectually dishonest and deliberately ignorant, or at worst a malicious rewrite of history.

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We had that option in 2016 but nobody votes in the fucking primaries.

And the party did everything they could to screw him over.

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9 points

Not only that , but voting for the people who are promising to make it even worse.

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Propaganda told them to.

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25 points

Are we stupid??

Yup.

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It’s not stupidity, because over 99% of us didn’t have a choice. It’s greed. Greedy little piggy leaders of major systems designed to fuck over everyone but them.

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My default response to this is what was voter turnout for the last election? People are fond of referring to the 4 boxes: soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge, but they don’t bother with the second.

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I’ve literally never heard a single person refer to these 4 boxes, so I must take issue with your assertion that people are fond of doing it. You’re also seemingly discounting innumerable factors, like the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on distracting and deceiving people into both voting against their best interests, and not voting at all.

In short, your default response is a reductive and unhelpful platitude. Not trying to be a jerk (it just comes naturally). Best of luck.

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139 points

Good. Burn it all down and replace it with universal healthcare.

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28 points

Like every other modern country! They all get better care for less money!!!

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No, you see, America is bigger so it won’t work for some reason

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Just ignore economies of scales you little working class peasants. That doesn’t work here.

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5 points

It’s because they have more people per capita, duh.

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Then they’re a monopoly, so we’ll split them back up in 20 years. And let this cycle continue again.

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Public services have this one difference that they’re governed by a democratically chosen body

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Awfully optimistic of you to expect that it’ll be replaced by anything better.

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If I don’t have even a shred of optimism my mental health would be x10 worse. I need it, swiper no swiping. 🙃

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4 points

Aw maannn

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I have mixed feelings. On one hand I can absolutely see m4a being awesome if implemented in the laziest way and I can see Trump winding up doing that purely for popularity (highly unlikely but not impossible). But I imagine it’s more likely to be like tricare and i imagine it would explicitly exclude politicized Healthcare like abortion, birth control, and gender affirming care.

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US Healthcare is in a pretty bad spot as it is, any durable improvement would be an improvement nonetheless. Just like how the Affordable Care Act was a significant improvement over the wild under-regulated denial-fest that the pre-ACA insurance industry was

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I like your optimism but trump will hug Eric and tell him he loves him and that he’s the bestest boy ever before he implements universal health care

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but I wouldn’t leave replacing them off of the table…

Trump wants his solutions. It’s gonna be hard figuring out what solutions currently in place will be allowed to stay.

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67 points

Burn the industry to the ground.

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49 points

Is it 0? No?

Have a ways to go then.

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8 points

Same goes for number of biz execs/CEOs.

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Good. Shareholding and profiteering off healthcare should not be a thing. It should be a government service not a business, although I’d bet a million dollars I don’t have, that it won’t happen under Trump. And if it ever does happen, they had better fucking plan it to be rock-solid against ruthless cutthroat cheating grifters like him.

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Health food shelter clothing.

All of these things should be provided to everyone in every country, paid for by taxes.

Just eliminate the struggle of the common person from these 4 things is a goal worth being a prime prime directive

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