There is no evidence this is an official donation fund

6 points

He 100% needs a better lawyer…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Jav3T2K00

The one he has now is probably just the only lawyer in Altoona.

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15 points

He needs an entire legal team.

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Really? Dude seems like a pro to me.

He has 30+ years of criminal defense experience, and clearly has some media training (which let’s face it, that’s going to be critical in this case in particular).

The guy has even successfully appealed the PA supreme court. What more are you looking for in a defense lawyer, exactly?

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and clearly has some media training

I admit I haven’t watched the entire press conference…

But I think our standards have been drastically lowered by the last election if the dude in that video qualifies as “clearly having some media training”.

I found this

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/who-is-thomas-dickey-lawyer-decries-lack-of-evidence-tying-luigi-mangione-to-ceo-shooting/ar-AA1vGIKg

But it’s like I said, he’s a small time lawyer.

The most noteworthy case in that article was a robbery turned double murder where the defendant is clearly guilty. I didn’t see anything about appealing the PA SC, but whether or not that’s impressive is highly dependent on the exact case. And it’s not as rare as you seem to think it is.

I’m not saying he’s a bad lawyer.

Just that he’s not the caliber lawyer Luigi needs when the full force of the government is going to come down on him.

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34 points

Yeah from that video and the one later he seems to know his stuff. Using “put yourself in Luigi’s position” is the perfect answer to avoid leaking sensitive info about your discussions with your client that the media are constantly prodding for, while still evoking sympathy for the defendant.

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Wow some of those reporters are in for blood.

Also: Saul Goodman vibes.

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5 points

Saul Goodman vibes.

Exactly

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He seems like a pretty good lawyer to me. A lot of non-answers. No speculation or sensationalism. He’s controlling the conversation rather than letting the reporters derail it. Any particular reason you think he’s bad?

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Well, first off the murder charges are NY and this guy’s has only practiced in PA, so it’s a safe assumption he hasn’t passed the NY bar…

There’s other reasons, but the fact that this guy literally can only fight the extradition and gun charges.

I feel like it’s a safe bet that Luigi will need another lawyer

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10 points

He will 100% need a new lawyer, probably an entire team to be honest. And his public defender can help with that.

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Yeah for sure they’ll bring on another lawyer that’s accredited in New York once needed, but that doesn’t mean this lawyer is a bad one.

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7 points

Idk, joking around and feeling relatable are pretty good strategies for making a jury feel more sympathetic to the defense. And as other people have said with how high profile this case being calm and good on camera is important. So far I’ve thought he seemed great.

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3 points

Also, there’s basically no chance he successfully blocks extradition. This is just a delaying action to have more time as a story. Being able to handle media well is probably his primary requirement.

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-23 points

So poor people are donating to a guy that comes from extreme wealth and privilege?

Make it make sense.

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3 points

Universalmonk’s new alt

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2 points

I can believe it

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7 points

a hero*

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Just hopefully not an hero

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9 points

You fuckers do the same with trump

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12 points

Faith.

Same reason I don’t cite poor farmers giving to Trump’s presidency.

Faith in an idea is a powerful motive. The poorer you are the more you rely on faith rather ability and/or resources. Literally take a political science 101 class. Belief that something is right or true is like 99% of how organized humanity works.

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7 points

I’ll get behind anyone who helps clean out the boardrooms.

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-10 points

why does he need a defense fund? He’s going to be defended either way.

if they convict him, which they probably will based on DNA and overwhelming evidence, and send him to jail. would he need to pay his lawyers back for their time?

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10 points

They might be able to prove in court he’s guilty. Convicting is a different story.

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24 points

A team of lawyers is going to be much better for him than a single public defender ever can do.

As of right now we have no solid understanding of what evidence there is against him, because the cops could be saying anything they like.

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It must be nice to have so much money and privilege that you can afford a team of lawyers.

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3 points

He doesn’t have a public defender. His attorney is not a public defender.

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2 points

Did he give a sperm sample or something at the crime seen? What DNA?

And public defenders though they are as skilled as any attorney are very much overworked in many places. Private counsel can offer more attention to the details of a case and spend time researching potentially novel theories to defend their client.

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-1 points

They can sample DNA now if you’ve simply been in the area. They can sample it off the backpack he discarded in the park. They can sample it off the shell casings. They have his movement across many cameras.

Remember, they only have to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt”.

I think lemmy users need to get their head out of their asses with the “we really don’t know if he did it” thing. As much as anyone might think the crime was justified, the evidence is pretty solid. And with such an emotional newsworthy case, they’re not going to bring it to trial unless the evidence is beyond reproach.

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What do you think DNA is? The thing outside a criminals’s gloves? IRL isn’t CSI Miami. Go swap a NYC sidewalk and see what you get. That’d be a needle in a haystack.

Remember, they only have to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt”.

This is like saying remember marathon runners only need to run 26.2 miles.

It’s not having our “head [in our] asses” it’s a decent respect for the freestanding system of laws. Social media vilianizing or martyrizing people alleged of cromes isn’t beneficial for true justice.

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2 points

They also said they have fingerprints from a water bottle. If that’s true, they can probably get DNA from that. If they actually need DNA.

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4 points

In the US, you need to pay a lot of money to not be found guilty

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-50 points

Lock him up and throw away the key. And, f yo downvotes.

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0 points

lemmy.world, proving once again it’s just a hive of liberals

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Hey, don’t lump people like me together with the bootlickers. Being a massive instance, you’ll see a lot more stupid views coming from .world overall, but it’s not representative of the userbase like with lemmygrad or the other political instances

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you may be an exception, but liberalism is absolutely representative of the user base.

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11 points

I have been called a bootlicker for saying I think he probably killed Thompson. This is what actual bootlicking looks like

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And killing Thompson is the whole reason people elevate him. If Luigi Mangione is actually just some random dude getting his McD’s after working on his fan-fiction manifesto and printing out copycat fake IDs for lols, then the story isn’t really about Luigi.

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2 points

Wow

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5 points

Absolutely. He’s a fucking hero, and I don’t care what people think about that.

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6 points

Why?

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-15 points

It’s called murder

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7 points

It’s naaaame is Sony, and it’s my turn with the sex box.

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4 points

Not till he’s proven guilty in a court of law it isn’t.

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28 points

Even if it is the right guy, nah.

This is explicitly what the 2A is meant for, to deal with tyranny.

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Tyranny?

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tyranny ˈtɪr(ə)ni

noun

  1. cruel and oppressive government or rule.
  2. a state under cruel and oppressive government.
  3. cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control.
  4. (especially in ancient Greece) rule by one who has absolute power without legal right.
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5 points

I’ll donate to his cause!

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19 points

Just be careful of this particular one, it isn’t an official one.

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8 points

Yep, just waiting on a official announcement.

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4 points

With as advertised as this one is, it would be very difficult for someone to just run away with that money. If there ever is an official one I’m sure the funds would be transferred. But of course we will find out

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