The 2024 US presidential election had been widely characterized as one of the most consequential political contests in recent US history. Although turnout was high for a presidential election – almost matching the levels of 2020 – it is estimated that close to 90 million Americans, roughly 36% of the eligible voting age population, did not vote. This number is greater than the number of people who voted for either Donald Trump or Kamala Harris.

More than a month on from polling day, eligible US voters from across the country as well as other parts of the world got in touch with the Guardian to share why they did not vote.

Scores of people said they had not turned out as they felt their vote would not matter because of the electoral college system, since they lived in a safely blue or red state. This included a number of people who nonetheless had voted in the 2020 and 2016 elections.

While various previous Democratic voters said they had abstained this time due to the Harris campaign’s stance on Israel or for other policy reasons, a number of people in this camp said they would have voted for the vice-president had they lived in a swing state.

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Pivoting from Biden to Harris guaranteed a Trump victory.

We need a replacement for the democrat party.

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Harris overtook Biden’s polling numbers quite quickly. Also, I find that Biden’s pardoning of the “kids4cash” judge demonstrates some extreme incompetence and tone deafness".

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Pivoting to Biden in 2020 is what really sank the party in 2024. Covid won 2020 for Biden, but he thought he was something special so in 2024 he desperately clung onto power until his mental decline was too obvious for even party diehards to deny and then the party scrambled to push through Harris who was forced to adopt that bonehead’s general rhetoric. Biden would’ve lost things even harder. The party really fucked itself with Biden, but I’m sure the party thinks it was all worth it to prevent a Bernie victory.

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Biden had been showing his age for almost a year before he dropped out. That debate was his last chance to show he wasn’t having a massive mental decline, and he failed. There was no way he could have won against Trump after that.

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I actually disagree. I think the debate was blown way out of proportion and most people who would’ve voted for him prior would’ve still voted to him after.

It’s important to acknowledge that there are a lot of liars on the internet. It’s easy to make it appear that a bunch of people jumped ship from biden after the debate when you see waves of trolls saying “yeah, I was gonna vote for Biden but not after that debate!” Meanwhile, they were going to vote for Trump all along.

That said, I still don’t think Biden had a great shot at winning because he doesn’t serve the working class or exploit their emotions.

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I didn’t find Harris compelling, just more of the same.

Well you’re sure not going to get more of the same now. Good job, shithead.

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Well when you get Biden pardoning a judge who literally took bribes to send kids to jail to benefit a for profit jail, I’d question how compelling the Democrats are.

Instead of voting 3rd party and trying to change things, many Americans seems to be locked in a pointless argument over which party is the least shit.

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Maybe you shouldn’t worry about them being compelling when the alternative was fascism.

How are you still arguing this?

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Because it is all a lie to cover up the truth. They want everyone to think of them as righteous, good, and caring. Hell, they want to think of themselves that way. But deep down they know it’s not quite true. There’s something they hate that is more important than what happens to anyone else, and even to themselves. I suspect that for a lot of them it’s extreme sexism… Sure, they are all for a female president. As long as she is perfect. Says everything perfect, does everything perfect, and it would really help if she had a penis too. Or maybe they didn’t want an Indian or another black person… Whatever it was it was more important than their so called support for the Palestinians, support for the Ukrains, hate of fascists and Nazis, ect ect…
Whatever it was, the blood of the Palestinians, Ukrains, is a small price to pay… But whatever it is, it’s heinous and they know it. So, rather than admit to everyone, and even more importantly themselves, what they know is truly disgusting, they pretend that it was something that makes no sense. “She didn’t explain her policies, we didn’t like her policies on something even though her opponents were 100 times worse…”
It’s a smoke screen for the truth. Intellectual Dishonesty. They are lying to us and themselves.
At least the maga crowd has the guts to admit their hate. They come straight out and let you know that they are fine with the world burning as long as whatever they hate burns with it.

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How you still did not understand that this way of arguing won’t change anyone’s mind?

“Choose between slow sleepwalk to fascism or this rapid honest one”.

I can’t fathom why people put all the blame on the voters. Dems could a and should have done more. Harris got billion dollars for her campaign!

Biden pardoning his son is understandable, but a giant Fuck You to everyone else. He got his, now the rest will live with consequences.

DNC has fucked the USA again and again. How about some blame there.

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Fortunately Biden wasn’t on the ballot

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No, but “i wont be fundentally different from Biden” Harris was.

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Yeah fuck Biden for doing that, but try to stay on topic

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Good job, shithead.

Yeah, keep blaming the people “not falling in line” instead of just running a candidate that supports them.

That’s how we got 2 Trump presidencies and people like you still haven’t learned from it.

If anything, this should teach people like you that expecting people to “fall in line” no longer works and you should support different tactics to prevent further conservative blowouts.

I don’t think people like you are capable of learning from this, though. You’re just going to get angrier and keep repeating the same mistakes expecting different results.

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You’re right. I do blame people for “not falling in line” and letting a genocidal fascist dictator who made no secret of that gain control of a nation because they didn’t find the opposition “compelling.”

And as far from not having learned, I think what you haven’t learned is that 2024 was the last real election in the U.S. in your lifetime.

Harris lost. You got what you wanted. Be happy about it.

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Yeah, you’re delusional and incapable of arguing in good faith.

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the problem is, we still gotta beat Trump.

I dont think anyone knows if actual leftist messages will actually work, but holy shit it’s gotta be better than diet, no caffeine, low sodium fun size Bill Clinton Zero.

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One guy said this “VP Harris failed to demonstrate she was ethically or intellectually capable of executing the office, repeatedly failing to detail out her policies…" It’s infuriating that people continue to believe Harris never detailed her policies despite the fact that all she talked about was policy. All they had to do was pay attention to her and she would talk about her policies, it seems like they just didn’t want to even pay attention to her. Or that because she didn’t detail alllll of her policies then that wasn’t enough. Add on that this person calls her intellectually incapable of talking about her policies, basically calling her stupid and it’s just exhausting.

This whole article continues to make me believe in the fundamental problem with Democrat voters which so many people have shown. The democrats have to run the perfect candidate with the perfect policies or the charisma of Obama who promise the world, while the Republicans can run a guy who says immigrants are eating cats and dogs and because the Democratic candidate wasn’t perfect, the Republicans win.

And then when the Democrats do promise signficant change and it doesn’t immediately happen, Democrat voters punish them for it, they lose the midterms, and any change that was in the process of happening gets stopped dead. But when Republicans promise the world and don’t deliver, Republican voters reward them for simply promising it.

“Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.”

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Institutional vs anti institutional. Dems are institutional and the institution sucks. Trump is a sledgehammer. He promised alot of sledgehammering. Not good, but that’s irrelevant. The Dems need to stop protecting the broken system of neo liberal economics that fucking Regan invented and chasing the phantom center right vote.

Aka. swing left or die.

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While various previous Democratic voters said they had abstained this time due to the Harris campaign’s stance on Israel or for other policy reasons, a number of people in this camp said they would have voted for the vice-president had they lived in a swing state.

In a group of absolute morons, this is the only rational stance. It makes sense not to vote if your vote doesn’t matter and by doing so you’re only symbolically supporting a genocide. This is of course very different from voting for Trump because of Gaza (completely irrational) or abstaining in a swing state because of Gaza.

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All I got from this is that Democrats, progressives, and Americans are fucking absolutely stupid regardless of education level.

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Non voters are almost as dumb as the trump people.

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Not really. There’s substantial evidence to indicate that voting does not significantly impact policy.

I think people like you are just grasping at straws to avoid admitting that you put your faith in a failing process.

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The evidence isn’t that voting doesn’t affect things. That’s a moronic conclusion. Its that largely things the public wants are vetoed by corporate influence.

The evidence is that voting affects things the corporate class is indifferent to- the easiest thing to point to is that the individual pet projects of candidates have an outsized effect: The invasion of Iraq being the easiest example of where the intention to create a war that hundreds of thousands died was essentially because the guy that won the 2000 election had a fixation.

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To further drive your point home-

Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

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Not voting takes less energy than voting for someone that doesn’t represent a potential voters interests. That’s not stupid, that’s just taking the path of least resistance.

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Why are you lumping progressives in with them?

Trump won 2 presidencies because democrats actively work against progressive agendas which would actually benefit regular people.

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Progressives work against progressive agendas by naming pro-safety policies like “don’t have police respond to mental health patients” as the Fox-news like “defund the police”.

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