187 points

Almost every creature that lives in a harsh environment understands about looking out for your buddies. The next day, it might be you snapped into the trap. Allies are a precious thing. A lot of people prominent in our society have forgotten, but the rats have not, nor many of the people, either.

Remember this when they start deporting your neighbors next year.

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61 points

mutual aid: a factor of evolution

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3 points

rb>c

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56 points

Today you, tomorrow me.

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You made me a little nostalgic, reminding me of when reddit was good. Right around that timeframe was the last days of when it was a human place.

https://aroundincircles.net/tales-from-a-dishonest-used-car-dealership-stories/

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14 points

Yeah, I sometimes miss Tales From Tech Support. There were some damn good stories in there. The car dealership ones were some of the best.

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11 points

Well, every social creature. There are plenty of species that don’t give a fuck.

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5 points

Yeah, without empathy our current society would never have had existed, sadly greed is often more powerful once basic needs and safety are met.

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6 points

Perhaps most mammals and birds understand empathy, but plenty of animals in classes like reptiles, insects, amphibians, don’t exert almost any empathy as humans understand it.

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6 points

now make the rats comprehend fascism.

Would be an interesting study if that was possible.

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Another run of this experiment found rats free those with the same fur color faster or more readily

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122 points

I’m always mildly concerned about how shocked people are about animals being conscious beings with feelings. Do people really think we are mentally that different from other animals with brains?

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I’m more concerned that people believe it’s rare, in both humans and the animal kingdom

Predators will share territory if there’s enough to go around, even forming close relationships across species, sometimes even raising their young together

Empathy is the natural state, unless there’s enough scarcity. Humans are naturally generous, unless we’re raised in an environment of eternal artificial scarcity…

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18 points

All those rich bastards that are not generous at all must have been raised in a lot of artificial scarcity then. Really artificial since most of them grew up well to do as well.

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They spend all their damn lives not even fully comprehending they’re not living in scarcity, because the only resources they’ve ever been taught to focus on are those which are inherently scarce - competing for attention, fame, social status, etc.

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Unironically, yes. Daddy’s approval, respect from their peers, relationships based on you and not your money, even basic self respect- they’re raised chasing money to fill the hole, to see it as the value of a person, of themselves

The ones that aren’t cursed with this artificial scarcity? They quietly live their lives however they like, they’re not trying to nickel and dime their way for more. You don’t hear about them much, because why would a mentally healthy person put themselves through that for no reward? Any of them could buy a nice house (or a dozen), pretend to be upper middle class, and live whatever kind of life they want. They could live out of 5 Star hotels and be waited on hand and foot. They could buy their way into fame as an actor or a musician

It always strikes me as absurd - we’re destroying the planet, and none of us are happy - not even the billionaires benefiting from it. Their family lives are a mess, they’re hated (or idolized for things they’re not), and especially now, they probably live in fear of being targeted walking down the street

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Predators will share territory if there’s enough to go around, even forming close relationships across species, sometimes even raising their young together

Some predators(and scavengers) have special move “Recruit!”, which allows them to invite members of another guild(species) into their party.

https://youtu.be/QaKwqsSIbIo

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19 points

To be fair, with academic types running experiments like this, the question is usually more along the lines of “At what point does instinct become empathy as we would recognize it?”, and depending on how high the criteria is set for empathy there, the level of premeditation may be geniunely surprising in some animals.

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13 points

Yes, they really do.

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11 points

Yes

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9 points

Yes, they do. And Christian types often believe that we have “souls” and animals do not.

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The owners use their captured public education and for profit media to turn us on one another and make us monsters.

They tell us avarice/greed, a well known character deficit and social blight for thousands of years is instead virtuous rational self-interest.

They force us to compete against one another rather than cooperate with one another as the basis of our economy, when an economy is meant to be a lowly tool of society for the explicit use of maximizing the efficient, equitable distribution of goods and services for the benefit of the citizens of the society. Our tail wags the dog. We are slaves to economic growth/metastasis we as a society do not benefit from.

The problem is that the sociopaths, mentally ill people literally incapable of empathy, something most humans have a strong need to exercise, that are among us quickly game society using their mental deficit as an advantage to take more than they need and manipulate others into elevating them, then manipulate those below them into fighting one another perpetually to stay on top.

Humans are social creatures. We’ve been conditioned to act as monsters, condemning our fellow humans literally dying in our streets of exposure and capital defense force brutality as “lowering our property values.”

This isn’t natural. It’s why our nation’s mental health is basically its own apocalypse of mass depression, anxiety, and never ending trauma. We are strongly discouraged from supporting one another, as we’re supposed to do the impossible, pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, then claim we did it alone. That’s the American delusion. 🇺🇸

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This really resonates with me. You are an excellent writer.

The part about empathy is so real. A lack of empathy is a real advantage in today’s world, unfortunately. I think empathy should be one of the most important values a society should strive for, and we decided to make a society that rewards sociopathy instead.

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Thank you, sincerely.

I know my comment history is basically the same points rehashed over and over as applied to the symptoms of the day we’re experiencing, but it helps me feel like I’m holding onto sanity in an insane society to describe the core rot as I see it, and I appreciate your kind words.

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74 points

Rats are more compassionate than insurance companies CEOs.

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25 points

Cordyceps is more compassionate than insurance company CEOs.

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10 points

CEOs of publicly traded companies doesn’t have the option to show empathy, they are there to maximize the company value for the shareholders.

Going against that would be a crime.

This is not an excuse for not doing it, this is an explanation of a faulty system.

Insurance companies should not have shareholders.

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And not a “that was a bad business move and we’re going to vote to fire you” crime, but an actual white collar prison crime.

It is against US law to prioritize customers (remember, in matters like health insurance, food, and housing, “customers” means literally everyone. you cannot opt out and you must be a customer to live) over shareholders.

Although the term “shareholder fraud” is mostly about CEOs themselves stealing from their shareholders for their personal piggy banks, there are plenty of lawsuits from shareholders claiming the company and/or CEO made decisions that didn’t directly generate value for shareholders or didn’t generate the maximum value it theoretically could have.

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