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It’s a question of modern air vs modern ground. Modern air vs air is a trivial battle so you end up with modern tanks vs WW2 tanks with air support. With enough atacms it’s a win for air I think.

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Yeah, the WW2 units might as well just stay home.

Modern air outclasses modern ground, but if I’m fighting and nukes are in play, I’m going with ground so I’ll die from the blast instead of radiation and starvation.

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The latter, it’s not even close. Infantry hasn’t changed that much, air combat is like night and day (sometimes literally).

See all the cases where modern militaries have had their asses handed to them by guys with WWII surplus weapons.

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WW2 ground forces will win. Modern munitions stores are a lot smaller, so they will cease to be a factor within weeks of a full scale war. Ww2 munition stores on the other hand were gigantic.

Then the WW2 ground forces will win, as air forces cannot hold ground.

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WW2 forces will get obliterated at nighttime, no night vision. Assuming modern ground forces are still alive by nighttime, that is.

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I fully expect that they can hide pretty well at night. They’ll take modest losses maybe, but wiping them out completely while the forces looking for them get picked off by helicopters is a tall order.

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I expect the modern airforce to be in the fight long enough for the modern ground forces to run out of munitions.

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I would ask why the attack helos are in the “air force” category.

Other than that, there’s supposedly an old joke about two Soviet generals watching the tank parade drive down the Champs-Élysées, and one turns to the other and asks: “Say, Trofim, did we ever figure out who won the air war?”

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Modern air wins, absolutely no question. Look at the gulf war. Baghdad, a HIGHLY defended city with an insanely sophisticated AA network got smashed to rubble and their air force destroyed and routed because the US got the leash taken off for a minute.

Air dominance wins fights period. As long as those WWII boys have radios and maps, they just sit back and watch the fireworks.

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Air dominance wins fights period. As long as those WWII boys have radios and maps, they just sit back and watch the fireworks.

Infantry exists to paint targets for people with real guns

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You can’t take or hold a city with air force.

Infantry is needed for that

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What exactly does “take a city” mean? If you’re not too squeamish then you’ll find you don’t need infantry, just a few MIRVs.

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