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Because he’s done more to fix our healthcare system than any politician.

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I wouldn’t say fixed as things are the same way as they are, but reminded us how every day we are fucked by oligarchs.

This is a weird time as we just elected them, just look how many billionaires are in trump’s cabinet picks.

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51 points

as we just elected them

That’s because the system is rigged. We can only ever choose between one rich person and another.

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You can’t compare Harris and Trump in that regard whatsoever

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7 points

I mean, Anthem did back down from that stupid policy about time limit anesthesia

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To fix is not the same thing as fixed. He’s done more towards fixing the problem. This said, it’s very important to reiterate, as you have, that nearly NOTHING hss still been accomplished.

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14 points

We need more Luigis for some more fixing.

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11 points

He can fix us.

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89 points

I’ve been surprised by how many people are celebrating this guy. Just goes to show how strongly the contempt is felt for the American healthcare system.

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I think it’s more about class warfare than healthcare specifically. All my European friends are cheering him on too despite not experiencing hardship with healthcare

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Everyone in Canada here loves him too. It’s absolutely about class warfare.

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I mean…that doesn’t count. Canada loves EVERYODY. It’s the Mr Rodgers of countries. Not that that’s a bad thing. I’m just saying it carrys about as much weight as your grandma pinching your cheek and saying you’re the MOST handsome boy.

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My girlfriend was very much in the club of “murder is bad no matter what” until I explained exactly why a health insurance CEO would be targeted.

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I’ve been really wrestling with my own anti-violence and the now-obvious fact that violence gets results.

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Europeans are famously derisive of the American healthcare system though, so for whatever reason they seem to care specifically about his impact on that. I think in general America looms large around the world, economically, militarily, culturally. And certainly online. Having something to feel superior about seems to provide a channel for pent up frustration or resentment. Because believe me there’s no other reason for Europeans to care as much as they do about how much my healthcare costs.

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As an American: it’s absolutely both.

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the American healthcare wealthcare system

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When you remember when “pre-existing conditions” was a thing until Obama stopped it and the fear that it will be allowed again, you absolutely are not going to shed a damn tear. If you really want to be depressed, watch Sicko by Michael Moore. Things have changed a little bit since then, but the attitude of the insurance and big pharma have absolutely not. The no surprises act that went in this year was another step forward, but who knows how long it will stick. People still go to other countries to get medical procedures and medication. People still go bankrupt from medical bills. People still have to spend hours on the phone begging some underpaid drone to get them healthcare because what your doctor says you need is overriden by a fucking corporation.

Some comments from Michael Moore yesterday: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/12/16/michael-moore-response-united-healthcare-ceo-shooting-luigi-mangione/77020835007/

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Yeah this may be a bit of a clumsy comparison but he’s giving me John Brown vibes.

My insurance company just sent me a completely coincidental survey about my views towards them. I’m looking forward to going off on them when I have a moment. I’m sure it won’t do much but at least it should be cathartic.

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“How do you feel about our service, with 10 being the highest?”

doesn’t circle 1-10, instead writes in “I have a gun”

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Just don’t talk to any police that may call or show up. Because even suggesting that you’re angry at them is enough to give them protection.

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See, cops are trained, in basic training to believe that EVERY civilian IS a threat to them. The original idea I’m sure was meant to be more like “every civilian CAN BE a threat to you”. Which is actually true. It’s meant to be more like danger on the streets can come at any time. Instead, it’s now taught as in every single cop IS being targeted by every single civilian with death threats. Which just factually is not true.

But my brain has an overactive imagination. MY brain likes to take absurd concepts and flesh them out to their realistic natural conclusions. What WOULD happen if every civilian wanted to kill every cop? And the answer all depends how far the government wants to go to protect cops. Because without military intervention, the end result is a lot of dead civilians, but also EVERY cop being killed too. And if that happens, or even threatens to realistically happen, do the military get called in to keep the people in line? And how do they handle it?

And there are three outcomes.

  1. Military says fuck this, and doesn’t get involved.

  2. Military gets involved, but gets swallowed by the vast overwhelming numbers of civilians. Without a military in place, the USA falls to another power. Maybe even a new internal one.

  3. The military treats the usa as a police state, and goes to war on itself. I’m talking full WWIII levels of violence. Atomic bombs, flame throwers, drones, they basically go scorched earth on itself.

And all of this can be completely sidetracked if the police don’t treat the people who’ve done nothing wrong as active threats.

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Should we be talking about this while we have unidentified drones in the sky??

Edit- well, I was told I didn’t need /s on lemmy. Just highlighting the media is already moving forward, we’ll hear less and less about the case and it’ll fade to time.

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I don’t see the military worrying about it, so its not foreign military or aliens.

New Jersey also have eyesight problems and commonly misidentify planes as drones.

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Love it

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5 points

It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s Superman? No, it’s a drone!

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Given the USA spends more on its military than the rest of the planet combined—no, you can be happy in the knowledge that your government decided it wasn’t worrying enough to obliterate

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Technically not the truth… The USA was responsible for about 37% of total global spending on military in 2023, and is the largest single spender (in US$ equivalent) globally. However, as a percentage of GDP the USA doesn’t even make the top 15. (and if you’re talking about a nation’s spending priorities then the percentage matters more than the $ value)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures

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$916 billion = US military budget, in 2023.

Just think of all the good that could be done with that money…

Poverty-reduction, environment-restoration, water-health, high-speed trains, global-aid…

When will we be angelic?

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Its probably just as likely the drones are coming from the military base and theyre running tests/trainings at night so no one can get a clear image of what they actually are.

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Yeah, the Military Base says officially nothing is happening. Fox News took this as “You Don’t Know?! WE DON’T KNOW WHOSE DRONES THESE ARE?! AND BIDEN IS DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT??!

You’d think those anchors would be frothing at the mouth with how stupid and angry they pretend to be.

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Yeah, we can talk about more things than one. Besides, drones don’t bother me as much as getting healthcare.

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We can talk about more than one thing.

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Despite the outrage at Fox News, nothing unusual is happening with Drones. There are some new, very recently FAA approved, flying vehicles being tested by several startups and there is some drone activity above military bases that the military doesn’t acknowledge the existence of because that is how you get court martialed.

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No.

They’re a distraction from the class war occupation.

The for profit media has seen this minor story as their escape from the news cycle their owners are scared of.

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Just waiting for someone to cry “Olly Olly Oxen Free”

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