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Remember on September 10th, 2001 when Donald Rumsfeld publicly announced the Pentagon couldn’t account for $2.3 trillion in transaction?

Or again in 2015 (2016?) when that number grew to $6.5 trillion with just the army alone? Yeah, no one does.

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Well, if the US doesn’t need to protect their allies in Europe, Pacific, South China Sea, support Ukraine against invasion, prepare for invasion against Taiwan…Yeah, then it doesn’t need that money. But we live in this world.

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Yes, but also no, imo. We absolutely need to accomplish those objectives.

But … Do we need to have a system that requires us to buy Tomahawk missiles at whatever cost Raytheon decides to charge? All the weapons we use are supplied by a single company, and the military does not own the IP for their weapons, even the ones initially invented by military research bases (e.g., sidewinder).

Our system of military contractors has, imo, failed us utterly while making a handful of companies incredibly rich

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Oh I definitely agree on that part. Even the F35 is a super bloated project. The US use to have multiple competitors for each weapon categories but industry consolidation (monopoly) made everything worse.

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This is suspiciously similar to Trump’s anti-military rhetoric. And at this of all times, when that very same military is engaged in defending a sovereign nation from being conquered by an infamously brutal dictator.

Just whose side are you on, Mr Sanders?

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You are suggesting Bernie is doing this as some secret team-up with Trump, which I think is just super funny. I’d watch the shit out of that cartoon

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Wouldn’t be the first time Sanders did something that was awfully convenient for Trump…

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What other conspiracies you got? I’m entertained. Doesn’t have to be politics

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“If you want peace, prepare for war. Si vis pacem, para bellum.” - Vegetius

Big bureaucracies do tend to have waste, but spending less reduces both useful spending and wasteful spending equally. Cutting a budget does not achieve virtue. US military spending keeps the world at peace

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spending less reduces both useful spending and wasteful spending equally.

I also would like a source or 2 supporting “equally” wasteful, although that’s a good point that both types of spending are likely to be reduced.

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Do you have any sources to back up your claim that useful and wasteful spending decreases equally?

If that is the case, it sounds like the issue is with management which can also be replaced.

The military is unbelievably wasteful and I have a very hard time buying your argument. You’re framing makes it sound like he’s proposing getting rid of the budget all together.

Also, I didn’t realize the world was at peace…

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I didn’t realize the world was at peace…

Compared to what’s in the history books, yeah, it is. This is by far the most peaceful time humanity has ever known.

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I wasn’t making a relativistic statement. The world is not at peace.

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Bernie!!✊

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