Summary

Grocery prices are expected to rise globally as soil degradation, driven by overfarming, deforestation, and climate change, reduces farmland productivity.

The UN estimates 33% of the world’s soils are degraded, with 90% at risk by 2050. Poor soil forces farmers to use costly fertilizers or abandon fields, raising prices for staples like bread, vegetables, and meat.

Experts advocate for sustainable practices like regenerative agriculture, cover cropping, and reduced tillage to restore soil health.

Innovations and government subsidies could mitigate impacts, but immediate action is critical to ensure food security.

126 points

This weeks excuse for the billionaires to increase their take.

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56 points

It’s no joke: conventional Ag is extremely tough on soils, and depletes soil organic matter, and reduces topsoil thickness though ploughing. Add on top of that contamination from various sources (not just Ag) and the picture is bleak.

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conventional ag

Industrial farming is incredibly harmful to the soil. There are other methods that are far less harmful and can actually be beneficial to soil health, the problem is they don’t scale well.

There is a great YouTube channel called No-Till Growers that really goes into some cool farming methods that are much less destructive

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hNyu4_RWGZo

Edit: this is probably a better video and I think it’s in a playlist about soil health. But honestly all of his videos are great

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4aZhevnaLWw&list=PLGMgkMLKOtWv0efQXhQtuu01WfWL5yBDf&index=1&pp=iAQB

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18 points

Conventional Ag is a method, distinguishing it from regenerative Ag etc.

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5 points

I have been doing no plow, no till gardening for over 20 years and it outproduces conventional gardening by a lot.

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conventional Ag is extremely tough on soils

No shit. My daughter and husband bought a house built on the corner of a field in Ohio that was farmed for years. You couldn’t get a shovel into the ground there because it was like cement.

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17 points

Right?? My first thought was, another excuse to raise prices and shrinkflate even more. Because that’s the solution! 🤬

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15 points

And do nothing to fix the problems their capitalism creates.

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5 points

They just take the money, they leave the problems for the poors

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Soil depletion killed the Sumerians. It’s older than billionaires. If we attribute every single problem to class inequality, eventually we’re going to be wrong, because there are other problems in the world. If you think billionaires have power over us, nature is vastly more powerful.

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74 points

“Here’s how the millennials’ love of vegetables is destroying the planet”

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24 points

“Fewer Millennials are farming, and that’s bad for everyone.”

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17 points

“Here’s why feudalism is the remedy for selfish, lazy millennials.”

This is gonna happen, I guarantee it 😂.

This damn country.

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4 points

Not everything is class and inter generational warfare. This has been building for centuries. The Sumerians compromised their soil and this eventually erased them.

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3 points

It’s the intensive farming of animal agriculture straining the land as it is not allowing it to rest.

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Yes, it’s a riff on how everything is the millennials’ fault in the news the past decade or so.

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50 points

[Existential crisis threatening all human life] Oh no, the economy!

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Reduced tillage is a big one. There’s a massive misconception out there that the best thing you can do for your soil is go dig it up and turn it over. Soil is alive, and tilling disrupts microbial and fungal action that contribute to its health - by physical rupture of fungal colonies but also by exposing underground life to more sunlight and oxygen. As you kill the top several inches by physical disruption, it becomes dust much more easily washed away by wind and rain: erosion.

We do it to remove weeds before planting, and loosen soil to ease germination. Planting mixed crops or cooperative cover crops are good alternatives for weeds which are massively underused. And overall we may just need to accept some immediate productivity loss in order to ensure long term survival. Farmers are smart, but not smart enough. Too much emphasis on operating tools and fertilizers to optimize yield like land is a machine you can tune, and not enough focus on reducing the need for all this with a more subtle approach with increasing long term yield but perhaps lower yield next year. With farmers always one season away from bankruptcy, you can see why they make the wrong trade offs.

Soil depletion is at the bottom of a lot of civilization collapses in event history. The whole reason the Egyptians lasted as long as they did is that the annual Nile flooding replenished their soil with minerals brought down from higher ground by the flow of water. It wasn’t just the water itself.

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And overall we may just need to accept some immediate productivity loss in order to ensure long term survival.

I see a massive issue in this plan.

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Why? It’s the next generation’s problem. And what have they done for us!?

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3 points

Seriously, those freeloading babies need to get a pair of bootstraps

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No till or low toll is pretty much the default on most soil types now, at least on North America and Europe. There some areas where its not the case but I wouldn’t judge anyone unless I had many years of experience in their particular environment. Sometimes what looks dumb from outside isn’t possible or feasible when you’re in the middle of it.

One problem we’ve found with no till after 20 years is stratification compaction just from rainfall and equipment, even with tramlining. Its starting to seem like it needs a working up every few years, or planting down to forage and more active livestock action. The advantage with that would be better carbon sequestration but its not really profitable if land prices/rent are high in that area.

And yes, in a profession with millions of dollars on the line every season, its really hard to make changes if you’re just getting by.

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The best thing for the environment and soil health is to not farm it. There is no such thing as environmentally friendly agriculture. It is always destructive.

We farm the land we do because it’s profitable.

Irrigated acres make up less than 7% of the land area used for agriculture but produce 65% of the total yield.

Protected culture (greenhouses, high tunnels, etc) produce 10x to 20x more per acre than open field production.

Increasing our water storage and transport infrastructure on a massive scale, combined with expansion of protected culture could reduce our agricultural land requirements by as much as 80%. All wiithout changing our diets.

Imagine 80% of the farmland rewilded? Massive stretches of native ecosystems rebounding without fertilizer or sprays.

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There are ways to create sustainable farms. It’s about diversity of crops and cycling what crops are grown each year.

https://www.edibleforestgardens.com/

There is no environmentally friendly factory farming. There is no healthy market-conscious farming. There are absolutely ways to be kind to the earth and grow food for a small community.

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We need food for billions not a small community.

Food forest = lower environmental impact per acre but a higher environmental cost per kg of production. It’s also highly environmentally irresponsible to add in invasive species, disease, and pests into and established ecosystem. These are all spread by seed, soil, and plant tissue of the crops we grow.

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But…billions make up many small communities. That’s my point. Self-reliance, mutual aid. That’s the answer. Not globalized solutions.

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I imagine harvesting, planting, and everything else that needs to be done is much harder in “protected culture” compared to normal agriculture.

We farm the way we do because we have always done it like this, except on a smaller scale obviously, otherwise almost everyone would still be a farmer.

Completely moving over to “protected culture” would be enormously expensive, hard, and unless some really advanced technical advancements happen so, impossible.

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Irrigated and/or protected culture… Protected culture for the crops that make sense. Irrigated in for all others.

We farm the way we do because historically we go through periods of innovation then stagnation. When the way we farm no longer works and we either rapidly innovate again or the civilization flounders and dies due to famine and war.

“Enormously expensive,” it’s all in perspective. It’s damn cheap compared to the cost of the environmental damage we are currently doing. FYI The equipment and technology already exist to do it as well.

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Irrigated? That seems incredibly water intensive.

FYI The equipment and technology already exist to do it as well.

How do you farm crops like wheat and corn that way?

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