138 points

Decent first step, but it’s going to take an actual investment in making parenthood desirable.

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85 points

Parenthood is already desirable. There’s a biological drive and social conditioning to desire it for most people. The disincentives have just become overwhelming. Children take a hell of a lot of resources. Every aspect of modern society has drained all the time, money, energy, emotional resiliance, social support, etc that people need.

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8 points

Meh

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51 points

Also the future is bleak in the poly-crisis.

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-2 points

Did you watch the new Tom Nicholas video, by chance?

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32 points

I’m logically aware that’s the case for other people, but I find it perplexing why often times. I was sterilized in my mid 20s, and I haven’t ever regretted it.

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13 points

Same. I suspect fomo. I experience that for other things but I never bought that kids thing.

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3 points

There are many other social factors that make parenthood undesirable in Japan that this does not address.

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32 points

four-day workweek

/me franticly googling rents in Japan

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14 points

Housing in Japan is cheap. Smaller than you’re used to but still cheap.

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5 points

Housing in Japan is treated the same as a car, it depreciates as soon as you move in.

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5 points

This should be everywhere.

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23 points

rent is cheapish, it’s everything else that will get you. if you’re fine with crushing and all-permeating conformism, ridiculous degree of nationalism and misogyny, how you won’t be ever accepted as one of their own as foreigner and famously toxic work culture, feel free to give it a shot

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35 points

The way I’ve heard it said is “if you live in a developed country, you could probably afford to move to Japan right now. If you get a job in Japan, you’ll never afford to move back.”

Japan’s cost of living is low compared to developed nations, but their average income is also low for a developed nation.

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When you move from the US you lose like half your salary for an equivalent position (more now cause of the relative power of the dollar to the yen).

The people that live like kings are the ones that are in Japan at the behest of American companies on American salaries living at like a third of their American costs.

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2 points

This is true in Europe too. Salaries in the US are just stupid high in general. They need to be because the US has shit for social services, which must be paid out of pocket.

Case and point: childcare.

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69 points

Wait until they will discover affordable housing thing.

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30 points

Housing in Tokyo is known for being relatively affordable, actually.

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32 points

ya it’s funny when you watch some videos about “small apartments” in tokyo and only to realize they are still more cheaper and spacious than some NA options in big cities.

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less expensive more expansive

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15 points

Not in Tokyo, but farther out in Tokyo’s residential cities (outside the 23 wards like Chiba and Saitama)

It’s even cheaper the farther you get from train stations. There’s a 30 minute walk “cliff” where residential land prices plummet when you’re more than 30 minutes walk away from a train station.

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6 points

If I lived in Tokyo, though, I certainly wouldn’t want to be a 30+ minute walk from a train station. That makes leaving home a pretty big task.

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33 points

Wait until you find out it is normal to tip your landlord there

https://www.interlinkjapan.com/blog/renting/key-money

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10 points

Usually the newer buildings owned by larger real estate groups don’t do they kept money thing anymore.

I’ve only really seen it in buildings owned by small real estate concerns and old dudes.

It’s luckily getting kind of pushed out as a normal thing, just slowly.

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Only once in my life have I got my damage deposit back. That is tipping the landlord a lot of money. The time I got it back was in a terrible situation and I had leverage over the parasite.

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They also have security deposits on top of that

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Housing is pretty affordable in Japan since housing in Japan is not an investment, it depreciates like a car (only the land has value, the house ontop of it has literally negative value since it’s assumed anyone will want to bulldoze it), and their lax zoning allows for continual densification to happen.

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13 points

Affordable housing, better working conditions, less working hours, efficient healthcare and better pay. It’s not hard goddamn it.

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2 points

That would be a hit in the US

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