108 points

No Biden, your legacy will be that your ego was so big, you let your country fall into fascism rather than relinquish power. He never should have run for 2024, and the DNC should have had an actual primary.

Nothing else he did during his term will end up mattering nearly as much as how it ended.

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-31 points

“Funnily” enough, he probably could have won against Trump…

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25 points

How do you figure? He was looking at potentially losing Minnesota, New Hampshire and Virginia when he dropped out, and showing no signs of being able to campaign his way out of that hole. One of the Harris campaign’s “gaffes” in the late run was when he went and called Trump supporters garbage (or at least, said words that sounded like that) after the Puerto Rico thing at MSG). Maybe 2020 Biden could have pulled it out, but 2024 Biden, both in the sense of his current mental and social capabilities and in the sense of the baggage he had as the incumbent president, didn’t have a lot going for him

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5 points

Maybe I’m wrong, but I was thinking more in the sense that a lot of people stayed home instead of going out to vote for Harris.

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3 points

There were people googling “did Biden drop out” on election day. His name on the ballot might have been enough.

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11 points

Considering Harris’ campaign was basically “I’m Biden 2.0, except I’m gonna capitulate even harder to Republicans,” I really, really doubt that. Biden won the 2020 election entirely off a platform of “I’m not Donald Trump.” It was foolish and belittiling of the DNC to think they could pull the same trick four years later.

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he had the lowest poll ratings of any incumbent on 80 years. Nixon had higher polls than Biden. He had zero chance of being reelected, even before he talked about beating medicare. Even against an idiot like Trump. Harris’s hole challenge was to climb out of the giant approval hole Biden had dug himself with his own stupidity.

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2 points

None of their internal polling ever projected Biden or Harris to win.

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58 points

His end is similar to Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Held on too long to power and totally fucked their legacy.

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11 points

the genocide enablement also didnt help.

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1 point

As a powerful American I’m sure she did that at some point.

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3 points

He fucked his legacy back in the early 80s.

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This is as wrong as two left shoes. Retroactive alt-history with the benefit of hindsight can solve anything, congratulations.

I’ll point out that identical “logic” can condemn Bernie Sanders for the Trump Presidency.

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13 points

but it’s not retroactive. people called for rbg’s resignation at the time. a lot of the establishment pushed back, including herself. they pretended it would be bad for the court to do such things for political reasons.

democrats love to lose. they live to lose. they talk civility and pretend they’re above politics. the whole entire fucking thing is political I’m so sick of these people. politicians pretending they’re above politics is like a plumber who pretends they’re above plumbing. they’re useless.

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And yet they’re so good at beating progressives in the primaries and the caucuses. They literally dump unlimited amounts of cash in defeating progressives everywhere they go. The only ones that get in are those like AOC whom nobody thought had a chance so they didn’t bother to slap her down. So they just put her in a corner in the Congress instead.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/ :

As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden made a bold promise at a New Hampshire town hall, adding repetition for emphasis: “No more drilling on federal lands. Period. Period. Period. Period.” […] The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has.

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Period. Period. Period. Period.

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1 point

Don’t leave out that he’s deported more people than Trump did, and nearly outpaced Obama.

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He said he was going to do what he said he would do.

Not that he wouldn’t do things he said he wouldn’t do.

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53 points

Oh word, is marijuana legalized Joe?

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Of course it isn’t. But centrists will lie and say it is.

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He never said he would legalize marijuana. He can’t do that, wrong branch. He did say he would pursue decriminalization of it, which he did pursue Iike the other comment said about trying to get it rescheduled. As of January 2022 there were 0 people in federal prisons for charges solely based upon possession of marijuana. (He pardoned a number to get them out)

If you want it legalized, look at the legislative branch.

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He started the process for medical marijuana legalization in 2022 via rescheduling to schedule 3 (Harris had called for full legalization, Biden only called for medical). It’s not as simple as a singular executive order when done without congressional action alone. The existing law makes the process very convoluted to reschedule. Lots of steps inbetween with people that have actively tried to slow it down

The formal rule for it ended up being fully proposed in May 2024, and the DEA has dragged it out and kept delaying it. The DEA managed to push the inital first hearing out until Dec 2nd and there keep being legal challenges from outside groups to push it back further and further

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Gee, a savvy career politician like Biden should have known they would have done that and accounted for it.

Oh wait. He did. That’s why he did it so late. So it wouldn’t happen.

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Or he tried getting through via legislation because he knew that’d be much faster, but only once he knew he didn’t have the votes for it, he then pivoted to the slower executive action

There was a bill passed in 2022 in the house to do exactly that which ran into roadblocks in the senate

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617

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-12 points

Biden was the best president of my lifetime. Not really close.

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Well, yeah, kinda is; but trump did that with the 2018 farm bill.

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2 points

If by kinda you mean “not” then sure

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Is there something you want that you can’t get? There are a handful of states that have outlawed and some vendors won’t ship to then. I just checked Flow Gardens and they ship everywhere except Idaho.
https://flowgardens.com/papaya-punch/

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Green energy, EV investment, union empowerment (inb4), student debt relief marijuana pardons and likely rescheduling, infrastructure, drug price controls, Chips act, PACT act, non-competes banned (by FTC along ‘party lines’), pardoning people kicked out of military for being gay, supporting Ukraine, etc, etc.

People saying he didn’t do anything have their head in the sand.

Is this where we cue “but he didn’t do everything, everywhere, all at once”?

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28 points

inb4

You lost me the moment you thought the strikes were only about sick days. Look up the unions’ demand and you’ll see that sick days were only one of many, and Biden still gave them less of those than they demanded.

Edit: Typo.

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9 points

And then when the amazon strikers were being illegally arrested by the cops the other day Biden didnt do a damned thing.

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The video says (effectively) “still working behind the scenes on the remaining issues”. Just because they reach an agreement on one item doesn’t mean they ignore all the other items.

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17 points

No he waited for the news cycle to move on and abandoned them

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6 points

That was two years (???) ago and he only has two weeks left in office. Unless by some miracle they can get these things during Trump’s term, it ain’t happening.

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19 points

I think people are more upset about the net change. Marijuana pardons, but he also pardoned someone who embezzled millions, as well as Hunter (after saying he wouldn’t). He also showed no sympathy for union workers, like when he signed return to work for striking rail workers.

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He also showed no sympathy for union workers

https://youtu.be/EM6jMtG_MB8

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and likely rescheduling

Cannabis is still Schedule I.

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Going to copy paste my comment from elsewhere


He started the process for medical marijuana legalization in 2022 via rescheduling to schedule 3 (Harris had called for full legalization, Biden only called for medical). It’s not as simple as a singular executive order when done without congressional action alone. The existing law makes the process very convoluted to reschedule. Lots of steps inbetween with people that have actively tried to slow it down

The formal rule for it ended up being fully proposed in May 2024, and the DEA has dragged it out and kept delaying it. The DEA managed to push the inital first hearing out until Dec 2nd and there keep being legal challenges from outside groups to push it back further and further


Dems also tried getting it through via legislation which is much faster. Passed in the house but it died in the senate

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617

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So why’d he fuck off until 2022 instead of starting it on Inauguration Day?

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Dems also tried getting it through via legislation which is much faster. Passed in the house but it died in the senate

Gee. How could that have happened in the Senate that Democrats controlled at the time?

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Hello Mr Crab! That’s why I said likely! He told whatever agency to look at it and iirc they announced plans to reschedule it.

I also see someone else has given you a whole bunch of information on it.

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Cannabis is still Schedule I.

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Did he do some things? Sure.

Did he do nearly enough? No.

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