I wonder if my system is good or bad. My server needs 0.1kWh.

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You might have your units confused.

0.1kWh over how much time? Per day? Per hour? Per week?

Watthours refer to total power used to do something, from a starting point to an ending point. It makes no sense to say that a device needs a certain amount of Wh, unless you’re talking about something like charging a battery to full.

Power being used by a device, (like a computer) is just watts.

Think of the difference between speed and distance. Watts is how fast power is being used, watt-hours is how much has been used, or will be used.

If you have a 500 watt PC, for example, it uses 500Wh, per hour. Or 12kWh in a day.

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I forgive 'em cuz watt hours are a disgusting unit in general

idea what unit
speed change in position over time meters per second m/s
acceleration change in speed over time meters per second, per second m/s/s=m/s²
force acceleration applied to each of unit of mass kg * m/s²
work acceleration applied along a distance, which transfers energy kg * m/s² * m = kg * m²/s²
power work over time kg * m² / s³
energy expenditure power level during units of time (kg * m² / s³) * s = kg * m²/s²

Work over time, × time, is just work! kWh are just joules (J) with extra steps! Screw kWh, I will die on this hill!!! Raaah

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Could be worse, could be BTU. And some people still use tons (of heating/cooling).

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Power over time could be interpreted as power/time. Power x time isn’t power, it’s energy (=== work). But otherwise I’m with you. Joules or gtfo.

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Whoops, typo! Fixed c:

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kWh is the stupidest unit ever. kWh = 1000J/s * 6060s = 3.610^6J so 0.1kWh = 360kJ

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If you have a 500 watt PC, for example, it uses 500Wh, per hour. Or 12kWh in a day.

A maximum of 500 watts. Fortunately your PC doesn’t actually max out your PSU or your system would crash.

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kWh is a unit of energy, not power

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I was really confused by that and that the decided units weren’t just in W (0.1 kW is pretty weird even)

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Wh shouldn’t even exist tbh, we should use Joules, less confusing

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Watt hours makes sense to me. A watt hour is just a watt draw that runs for an hour, it’s right in the name.

Maybe you’ve just whooooshed me or something, I’ve never looked into Joules or why they’re better/worse.

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At least in the US, the electric company charges in kWh, computer parts are advertised in terms of watts, and batteries tend to be in amp hours, which is easy to convert to watt hours.

Joules just overcomplicates things.

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Wasn’t it stated for the usage during November? 60kWh for november. Seems logic to me.

Edit: forget it, he’s saying his server needs 0.1kWh which is bonkers ofc

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Only one person here has posted its usage for November. The OP has not talked about November or any timeframe.

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Yeah misxed up pists, thought one depended on another because it was under it. Again forget my post :-)

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Do you mean 0.1kWh per hour, so 0.1kW or 100W?

My N100 server needs about 11W.

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The N100 is such a little powerhouse and I’m sad they haven’t managed to produce anything better. All of the “upgrades” are either just not enough of an upgrade for the money, it just more power hungry.

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To my understanding 0.1kWh means 0.1 kW per hour.

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It’s the other way around. 0.1 kWh means 0.1 kW times 1 h. So if your device draws 0.1 kW (100 W) of power for an hour, it consumes 0.1 kWh of energy. If your device factory draws 360 000 W for a second, it consumes the same amount of 0.1 kWh of energy.

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Thank you for explaining it.

My computer uses 1kwh per hour.

It does not yet make sense to me. It just feels wrong. I understand that you may normalize 4W in 15 minutes to 16Wh because it would use 16W per hour if it would run that long.

Why can’t you simply assume that I mean 1kWh per hour when I say 1kWh? And not 1kWh per 15 minutes.

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0.1kWh per hour can be written as 0.1kWh/h, which is the same as 0.1kW.

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Thanks. Hence, in the future I can say that it uses 0.1kW?

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0.1kWh per hour? Day? Month?

What’s in your system?

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Computer with gpu and 50TB drives. I will measure the computer on its own in the enxt couple of days to see where the power consumption comes from

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You are misunderstanding the confusion, Kwh is an absolute measurement of an amount of power, not a rate of power usage. It’s like being asked how fast your car can go and answering it can go 500 miles. 500 miles per hour? Per day? Per tank? It doesn’t make sense as an answer.

Does your computer use 100 watt hours per hour? Translating to an average of 100 watts power usage? Or 100 watt hours per day maybe meaning an average power use of about 4 watts? One of those is certainly more likely but both are possible depending on your application and load.

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You’re adding to the confusion.
kWh (as in kW*h) and not kW/h is for measurement of energy.
Watt is for measurement of power.

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Yeah but tbh it’s understandable that OP got confused. I think he just means 100W

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Which GPU? How many drives?

Put a kill-o-watt meter on it and see what it says for consumption.

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Idles at around 24W. It’s amazing that your server only needs .1kWh once and keeps on working. You should get some physicists to take a look at it, you might just have found perpetual motion.

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.1kWh is 100Wh

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Good point. Now it does make sense. I know the secret to the perpetual motion machine now.

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This is a factual but irrelevant statement

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I ate sushi today.

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