We are not sustainable And neither is any other device maker. This industry is full of “feel good” messaging, but generates 50 million metric tons of e-waste each year. We believe the best way to reduce environmental impact is to create products that last longer, meaning fewer new ones need to be made. Instead of operating on feels, we operate on data and actions. With funding from Intel, we commissioned Fraunhofer IZM to do a detailed life cycle analysis (LCA) on Framework Laptop 13 to help us understand where we are today and where we can continue to improve. Check out our thoughts on reducing environmental impact and download the LCA report here…
My only concern is that they might turn into the next Unfairphone. But for now, I’ll remain cautiously optimistic about them.
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Looks like that same person made a followup video? It was suggested to me under the first one:
Why I was wrong about fairphone
I haven’t watched either yet, planning to do that tomorrow
They still have a SD card reader up to fucking 2TB but got rid of the headphone jack in favor of a little more water proofing, not my favorite decition but certainly not a reason to call the only even remotely fair phone with some actual fair trade and recycled materials and unfair…
I recall the fairphone 2 being touted as an open platform with support for ubuntu touch, phosh and more. There’s not a word of that with the current lineup.
Mainline being worked on for FP4: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_4_(fairphone-fp4) along with a UT port https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/fp4
(Almost) Everything is greenwashing because ultimately that’s what consumers want. They don’t really care about making something more environmentally friendly, they simply want to feel better with false claims and splashy marketing.
The whole environmental angle that FW are taking seems OK, but if they are too expensive or don’t make a good product or fall behind the competition, then it simply won’t work. I just found out my old laptop shit the bed, so I would absolutely take a serious look at what FW offers.
One of the things I absolutely hate about their marketing material is this idea that you can buy a module that adds a X port or Y connector to the laptop. Just build those ports into the goddamn laptop from the get go. Every extra module you add, every extra seam on the chassis, every extra cable there is, is an extra failure point in thw product and for something that is mobile, that’s not a great thing. I like the repairability angle they are pushing, but if all the extra modules introduce more failures then you won’t have happy customers.
I’ll tell you what Framework’s IO modules truly are: Dongles.
They plug into USB-C ports on the mainboard, just like the bundle of IO dongles a Mac user has to lug around. But in Framework’s case, they’re “inboard.” They snap into the chassis of the Laptop to present the form factor of a built-in port. So unlike pigtail form factor dongles that stick out of the machine, you can leave them plugged in while the laptop is in your bag.
And because the module is supported by the chassis, that relieves the strain on the USB-C port itself, so if you drop the laptop with something plugged into a module, it might break the module but not the mainboard. Modules are cheaper and easier to replace than the mainboard.
Having used the expansion modules on my framework. I’m kind of in love with them. They remove all cable stress from the motherboard. Because of the modularity, I can just plug in an external disk to boot off of, if I want to run Windows, or a special operating system, and pull the disc out seamlessly through the expansion port.
I didn’t think I’d like them, but I really do. The modularity is undersold, day-to-day driving it’s great. No complaints about them whatsoever.
Check what facts? No model number was provided. The ThinkPad spans decades. We don’t even know if this is an IBM era or Lenovo era Thinkpad.
I feel like the modem held on in laptops far too long. By the Windows 95 era, most modems were just weird sound cards that put most of the work onto the CPU to convert the data into sounds. They were dirt cheap, so laptop manufacturers could keep them there for the hell of it.
To be fair, all these ports put together can’t match a single USB-4 in bandwidth. And I get they are pretty useful to avoid dongles, but I bet your ThinkPad (with that many ports I’m guessing a W or T, maybe 30 series?) weights more than a framework and a competent USB-C hub.
(But I love the ergonomics of old ThinkPads, that’s why my x201 gets almost as much use as my T480)
It’s unfortunate that the Framework modules aren’t quite big enough. They can’t put two USB-A ports side by side on one module, and there apparently isn’t enough room for the USB hub electronics, anyway. Just a bit wider and they’d make it.
Still the best laptop I’ve owned.
They don’t have the specs that I want, so… Not for me.
Are components replacable, repairable and upgradable because that is a pretty major thing in extending the lifetime of a device
The entire laptop is user serviceable, including replacing the Motherboard/CPU with a newer model, or even switching between Intel and AMD now. New 16in model will have upgradable discrete GPU.
