Elon lied about the monkeys — and he shouldn’t be trusted to put his Neuralink chips in human brains.
“They are claiming they are going to put a safe device on the market, and that’s why you should invest,” Ryan Merkley at the Physicians Committee, told Wired. “And we see his lie as a way to whitewash what happened in these exploratory studies.”
Really heartbreaking reading what happened to the monkeys.
People quite rightly think of Elizabeth Holmes as a fraud for making false medical claims about what the Theranos machines could do. So why aren’t Elon’s claims at Neuralink being held to the same level of scrutiny?
https://futurism.com/neoscope/terrible-things-monkeys-neuralink-implants
@ajsadauskas @technology I was just going to ask the Theranos/Holmes question.
Once he’ll start losing investors’ money his lies will catch up to him. Nobody’s asking questions as long as line goes up.
Theranos went down because Holmes was trying to run the same tired start-up scam all the big boys pull but within the confines of the medical industry. She would have succeeded if she had picked something non medical. The FDA doesn’t fuck around. If Elon thinks he’s smart enough to pull the same shit he’s going to “find out” too.
I really, really hope this is the case. I’d love to see him pay some serious consequences, especially if it’s the result of his own arrogance.
Supposedly the FAA doesn’t fuck around and yet he managed quite alright with SpaceX, cf https://www.techwontsave.us/episode/186_spacexs_regulatory_evasion_has_consequences_w_eric_roesch
@ajsadauskas @technology
I was astounded to read Neuralink is to be permitted to experiment on humans. Instead they should have any animal experiment licences revoked.
Why? We already have brain interface links that do similar damage to neuralink, this isnt unusual or unexpected. In its current form it is rightfully used on terminal patients with locked-in syndom. In other words, people before it damaged their brain in a meaningful way and whom cant be further paralyzed.
It would give these people a chance at someinteraction with the real world… What happened with the monkeys was about in line with other neural interfaces, its a consequence of the limits of the tech not negligence.
@freemo @ajsadauskas @technology
If there are already such implants why licence a company that seems less than, um, straight.
Point is what happened the monkeys is perfectly normal and expected… so nothing “not straight” about that (other than the sadness of animal testing)…
That said I dont like them as a companya nd wouldnt buy an implant off of them if I needed one, sure… but you’d need a pretty solid objective reason to actually block them.
anyone letting elon put a chip in their brain is a moron.
Yup. You have to be a special kind of trusting to allow a company to modify your brain.
Banal attempts at mind control, crude as they are, are bad enough already.
It’s easy to say as someone with a healthy brain. A blind, deaf or a paralyzed person might feel different once there truly is a way to get your sight back with this technology.
I don’t have a healthy brain? Could be better could be worse but no fucking way would I let a private company with a shady safety record run by an insane megalomaniac fuck with it.
Anything that’s plugging into your brain just can’t be controlled by a small group of people with the sole motive of line goes up. Open research and public ownership are required. The consequences are just too terrible otherwise.
“Truly” is the whole catch here. The problem is that Elon could very well prey on the people who have no other options. We are far from having evidence that it truly works.
This is definitely one of those procedures that should need solid proof to be legal. It would be tragic for these people to die over some guy’s “trust me bro”.
Or desperate. Forget the investors, Elon lied to those who saw it as a last ditch effort to beat their diseases.
Ah damn I didn’t think of that. I feel for them, but elon is the last person they should trust for that. I don’t honestly know who they should trust these days. But techbros aren’t one of them.
It’s the same people who think the covid vaccine puts a microchip in them. Go figure.
Elon has a history of lying that’s as rich as he was before he bought Twitter.
That’s horrible, and also confirms what I said just the other day, who would trust him putting an implant in your brain, not me, and I already have brain damage.
In this thread, I talked about it.
Also does this remind of some news not that far back about the doomed titanic sub, similar story, ignorance of reality, shortcuts, and then failure.
Same thing, and he wants to test with people, this is just crazy, he should never be given the right to do so.
Yeah I’m regularly missing words these days, your brain should fill them in as they aren’t important words really, just link filler ones to make it sound right.
Ah well, what can I do, constantly edit everything I guess, but I get lazy.
@trelord75 @ajsadauskas @technology
Thai caves sub proposal was crazy.