7 points

Turn the French Quarter into a pedestrian zone with hydraulic bollocks to allow the delivery trucks into the area. After 9 pm, no more deliveries.

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hydraulic bollocks

Lol

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10 dead, 30 injured after car intentionally plows into crowds in New Orleans

Yet another fucking exculpatory headline minimizing the agency of the assailant because his weapon of choice happened to be a car. No, headline writer, the car didn’t do a goddamn thing; its driver did. Even putting “intentionally” in there, while better than nothing, still fails to make up for using the wrong subject!

Better version:

10 dead, 30 injured after assailant intentionally rams car into crowd in New Orleans


This is basically the same type of shit as minimizing police responsibility with headlines like “bystander struck by bullet during officer-involved shooting” (as opposed to “police officer shoots bystander”), and just as systematic and egregious. The only difference is that it’s done in service of car-supremacy rather than the abusive police state. I am really sick and tired of it, in both contexts.

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After ramming the crowd, the killer got out and opened fire.

This was an intentional attack.

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The key point is that that intention needs to be ascribed to the person, not the inanimate object.

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I wasn’t arguing against that. I was giving missing context

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Media literacy FTW

This is how propaganda does the heavy lifting, folks, not with spotlights and posters, but grammatical sleight of mind.

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Bollards save lives. All pedestrian areas should be protected from cars by some kind of physical barrier. This protects against intentional attacks and drunk driving incidents.

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The French Quarter has retractable bollards in that area. They had been temporarily removed for upgrades ahead of the Super Bowl. At least that’s the story circulating here.

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If that’s true I hope they get the shit sued out of them. “Oh sorry we decided to risk you all being murdered for a while”

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New Orleans government is legendarily inconmpetent and corrupt, especially law enforcement.

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Yeah, and my understanding was there was some other kind of blockade up and he just went around it.

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Including bike lanes and bikeways!

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There are bollards around the quarter during events. Reports are that the truck. Intensionally avoided and drove through barriers

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Reports ARE that the truck.

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I agree with you that bollards save lives, but this appears to be a situation where normally drivable streets are closed off for a street party. Is there a feasible way to temporarily block those streets with something that would stop these incidents and also not damage the road (and also not cost taxpayers a ridiculous amount, obviously)?

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A simple solution to me would be to place concrete blocks like this

Using a truck like this

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That’s what my city does when there is a street party.

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Not possible. The French quarter is very small with narrow streets which are used daily when there are no events

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I wonder how cost-effective doing that would be and also what the damage potential to the street would be? I realize those are callous things to talk about when you’re talking about protecting people’s lives, but unfortunately American cities run on whether or not people think their taxpayer dollars are being spent properly.

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Yes, block them permanently. Fuck cars.

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I’m sure New Orleans will get on that right after they put solar panels on every building, a windmill on top of every skyscraper, and free food and education for all.

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For street parties in my city, they have used concrete “Jersey barriers” or other off the shelf large concrete blocks to temporarily block the ends of the street.

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Bollards that can raise/lower aren’t that expensive and they don’t need to be mechanized. Back at my university, they’d raise them when they’d close off driveable areas for events and there’s just a hook to lift them up and secure at a higher height with a lock. They were made of solid metal and concrete so I assume they had some sort of counterweight underneath to help raise them.

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They have them on every street leading into the busy part of Bourbon. This one was down for some reason.

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In Austin they commonly block off all roads to 6th Street with at least a cop car, if not two or three. I think this was something overlooked by whoever planned the event, leaving an unprotected street.

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In my college town they would use the municipal snow plows to block streets for festivals. I don’t care how much redneck shit you’ve done to your F350, it isn’t beating a snow plow.

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Cops still do that here for large street events. One of the streets does it often and they eventually installed retractable bollards.

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I’ve seen moveable anti car barricades. I think they work the same as those anti tank things. If someone runs into it the car is lifted off the ground. Something like this https://barriers.miframsecurity.com/products/

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Caltrops

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If you’re really determined to plow into a crowd of people, you’ll do it on the rims.

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I know. We’ll just use anti-vehicle land mines instead! That will keep the cars at bay and make everyone feel safe!

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They have them. There are bollards and retractable mechanical devices to block off the busy part of Bourbon. One was down for some reason.

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Ostensibly the bollards aren’t on the sidewalk so the assailant drove around them

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48 points

last may the governor signed a law making it legal for drivers to run over people blocking the road fyi

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Huh, I wonder why there are no racist posts on right wing social media

Officers returned fire, killing Jabbar , a U.S.-born citizen from Texas, sources said.

Ahh, there it is.

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“mere hours before the attack, [Jabbar] posted videos on social media indicating that he’s inspired by ISIS, expressing a desire to kill.”

Bro what???

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He also did IT for the US army so yeah, pretty unexpected.

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Private contractors are a huge portion of IT for the military.

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