Signing up to be humiliated and put through bootcamp, given a gun, freedom to kill and voluntarily putting yourself in the line of fire is a predictor of extremist violence? I’m gonna have to disagree with you on this one.
How about add on daily propaganda that tells you that the elite are out to get you, immigrants are invading, trans people are everywhere, communism is taking over and your way of life is disappearing … as well as messaging constantly telling you that you’re poor because of these reasons and if you get hurt or get sick you’ll go into debt, if you go to school you’ll go into debt, you buy a house you’re in debt, you buy a car you’re in debt, you eat you’re in debt, you breathe you’re in debt … all because of poor people, elites, immigrants, trans people … constantly droning on and on every single day.
All In a country where anyone can get a prescription to an antipsychotic or antidepressant and have the ability to buy a gun or many guns.
What could go wrong
All In a country where anyone can get a prescription to an antipsychotic or antidepressant and have the ability to buy a gun or many guns.
I don’t think the main violent threat is in people who do take their medicine in time and care about their mental health.
It’s like the ex-Soviet countries where people who’ve never been to a psychiatrist and never allowed thought that something may be off with them are proud of that, cause they are “normal” or something. As if having a condition was something shameful, or even transferring via personal contacts.
I mean, that aside, people with most developed and mature and intelligent personality I’ve met all didn’t ignore their mental health and took medicine and probably had a D or two.
Statistically people with no condition from DSM are just over 4% of the population. That’s the absolute minority.
Plus, even rationally it doesn’t make sense. Even if it is shameful to have a mental disorder, pretending you don’t have it will most likely make it worse (and hence more shameful) than if you accepted it and got treatment.
You don’t say!
I would suggest that the violence he committed (not counting the suicide obviously) wasn’t extremist, it was pretty close to justifiable.
Edit: Sorry, are people really downvoting me for saying that Pyle killing the drill sergeant was close to justifiable? Have you not seen the movie or did you get the wrong message from it?
Related question: what percentage of current police force are former military?
That propublica piece on that guy that infiltrated 3%ers showed militia actively recruiting police and people in power.
While this is true, that didn’t answer @OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world’s question.
From what I was able to find, it seems that about 25 percent of law enforcement is former military according to this source. However, I am not sure if that means people higher up in the ranks or how much of them actually patrol and are out in the field.
Hmm. Better make more cod games and top gun movies about it. That will tamp things down.
Yes, video games are the problem
Jokes aside, yeah top gun is nothing but propaganda lol. COD games are a bit of a stretch, people make these kinds of games all over the world, they don’t do it to trick children into signing for the US army. If cod died today nothing would change.
They weren’t talking about video games in general though were they. They listed two very clear examples of US military propaganda, one of which isn’t even a video game.
Also the US military has been literally directly involved in CoD development for many years.
For anyone interested in, not really on topic but i just remembered this great vid. It goes really into depth about what torture is, how it relates to torture in real life and why the way it is used in these games is pretty questionable, especially considering they are basically developed as ads for the US military.
Youtube - Analyzing Every Torture Scene in Call of Duty — All 46 of Them
Jensen and his colleagues found that while military personnel and veterans are not more likely to radicalize to the point of violence than members of the general public, when service members and veterans do become radicalized, “they may be more likely to plan for, or commit, mass casualty crimes, thus having an outsized impact on public safety.”
Well yeah, they are more dangerous than the average person and it’s not like their mental health care is great, like what did you think would happen?
I wonder if military training itself is radicalizing a person? just kidding. I don’t wonder. I know it has to. The basic principle pushed behind everything in military indoctrination is that one should be not only ready but happy and excited to risk their life to kill others. Dying for this purpose is virtuous as the halls of military installations are covered with the citations of Medal of Honor recipients, many who received the award posthumously. Basically, they see how individuals that sacrificed their lives for the greater goal of protecting their team and destroying the enemy are celebrated at the utmost honorable. The instilled model holds that fellow service members and countrymen are good and whomever they say is enemy is totally evil and must be killed. There is no transitional program to remove that perspective at the end of service, so it stays there. The veteran knowing that they didn’t think that way before service may understand that they have to develop a new model or adjust the military one by watching others. If things get too stirred up in a veteran, then the model might be applied if there aren’t others to choose from that may provide a solution to the veteran’s issues. If the military model is applied, whomever the veteran has placed in the enemy slot based on what media pushes (which in the past decade or so is that even fellow Americans are enemy), friends say (many using the crap from the media),…whatever input they receive to help understand the world around them…that group is now not only marked as enemy, but can be the target of the veteran’s self-understood virtuous sacrifice through violence.
I don’t understand how this isn’t obvious. People are people. Civilians are people. Enemy are people. Veterans are people. People are people. Training people with intense brainwashing to hate a vague concept so that they deeply believe at their core that killing others for the protection of their team is going to result in someone that thinks that way. What other way could it possibly result in? Veterans can be ticking time bombs if their environment is setup for it. Comparing themselves to others that don’t seem to feel the same, many commit suicide to clear their mind and end the turmoil because they can tell others don’t even understand what they are thinking and feeling, let alone help them, so there’s no respite from what happens in there. The only way to end it is to literally end it. If they’re going to kill themselves, might as well follow the exalted examples of the Medal of Honor recipients.
