Found this video interesting and wonder if there are any alternatives within Linux systems
Lemmy’s text-oriented, i’m not gonna bother with a video… on youtube of all places. </rant>.
First video has a nice edited summary of the history of guis.
But if the author had anything to say about guis other than it could be different, he would have said it. -Or at least suggested it to keep interest. The next video it’s a summary of every YouTube short he’s watched on philosophy and physics.
It’s not relevant to Linux at all.
It’s relevant to linux in I think the average linux user is more open to consider alternative interfaces than a windows user.
Video is more than just a history, I thought it was eye opening for considering what could be an alternative. I also don’t know but find the question interesting.
It would be interesting if he actually presented an alternative instead of 45 minutes (3 videos so far) of, “What if there was an alternative?”
The video doesn’t even talk about Linux. It’s Xerox Parc, Ted Nelson, Apple Macintosh, and Windows.
That would certainly be more interesting. Sorry you don’t find it relevant…
I think familiarity is a big part of why things catch on. If something is too different to what people know there will be only a few people who want spend their time learning it. And it would have to be revolutionary for these people to be able to convince others to also learn it.
It would have been helpful if in the video they would have discussed how an alternative could have even looked like and why it would be better. This is a demo of Project Xanadu, the system Ted Nelson envisions where he shows how it could work. He seems to propose that it would be hyper interconnected for every user of the system and every piece of media in it (another interview where he describes it). I’m not sure something like this could reliably work at a scale similar to the internet (he claims his system could have been the internet had they delivered it earlier) and also I’m not sure how it would work for what people actually want to do with the internet in addition to reading documents. Companies also want a certain control over the work they publish so I don’t think they would like a system that connects their work to everything else. And you also have to keep in mind that there are people who want to actively do bad things so I am not sure how a hyper interconnected system could protect its users from bad actors.
Edit: Found another video where he describes and shows a version of how a document with paid content works. It looks interesting but I’m still not sure how this would work on the scale of the internet and if it would even be better than how things work right now.
Thanks for the links! Odd he included that video but didn’t include the points you/he made beyond the criticism.
Edit: Watching the video you linked that is included in the posted video, not sure how big a deal Xanadu is. I wonder how this would compare to git history and tag maps such as Obsidian.
Whatever the UI in Jurassic Park is was a genuine linux interface at some point so maybe that
That was IRIX (SGI’s UNIX) with the “fsn” file browser, if the Internet is to be believed.
I don’t really have time to watch the video rn, so I’m not sure whether my reply really hits the mark, but what about window managers? you know, like sway and stuff.
Is the main difference that it tiles instead of floats?
Edit: oh it seems much more hotkey, terminal, and search focused watching than clicking. I think that is a much bigger difference than I originally expected.
Yes, though traditional point-and-click GUI apps will also be rendered according to the same rules.
However, a lot of fans of tiling window managers also use things like terminal-based file mangers, have relatively well developed Neovim configs, etc.
So, it’s kind a whole THING that some folks really enjoy.
