10 points

Cheaper than my rent. Where can I sign up?

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Commit a non violent felony that doesn’t step in to federal jurisdiction. Hire a good lawyer that can convince a judge to let you continue under your own recognizance working while you’re living in jail awaiting trial. Every time you’re trial date approaches push for an extension or a delay. Enjoy living in the premium cell at the zoo.

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But living conditions and quality of life is so extremity better here in the Netherlands, so I’ll stay here :) Plus, for at least the coming 4 years I wouldn’t want to step foot in the US anyway.

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Eh you’d be fine. Doesn’t really matter who’s in the white house if you’re just visiting. The president has very little actual impact on day to day life. Who’s in the white house is a symptom of the health of a country, not a cause of it. And, like herpes, one symptom may subside but the country is still infected.

What I’m saying is, if you wouldn’t visit under trump, maybe reconsider visiting at all. Though I maintain that as a visitor you’d find the people you meet to be mostly polite and even kind, if maybe a little extra interested in you because you have an accent.

Definitely don’t fucking move here though holy shit what an awful mistake that would be. In fact, if you ever do visit take me back with you. I’m cool, I’m handy, I make a mean chili. My wife loves to garden you’d basically have no chores!

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$3k a month? in rent? Are you renting a 5 bedroom house in Manhattan?

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$3k a month gets you a small 2br apartment 45-60 minutes from Manhattan

Ask how I know

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That’s a 200 sqft studio with no kitchen in Manhattan.

Shit my rent is 2400 and that’s considered a steal for the place I live.

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🤮 jesus christ

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3 points

lol 3k$/mo is a studio apartment in manhattan.

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I thought you were joking and then I did the math… Unfortunately I lose my pay if I’m locked up so I’ll go back to looking at campground commuting…

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It’s insane to me that even the “luxury” jail looks like a horrendous dungeon, and the implied solution in the article is that everyone should be in the even worse county jails. It’s no wonder the US has the recidivism rate that it does. All of the cells for all prisoners need to be upgraded to something that looks like a living space if there’s going to be any hope for the persons in them to be able to reintegrate into normal society when they’re released. Being afraid of getting raped and murdered everyday while living in a gray concrete box doesn’t exactly produce well adjusted individuals. I thought the punishment was supposed to be the incarceration itself, not the added daily violence in jails. It’s so barbaric, people who manage to get out of these places and become productive members of society seem almost superhuman to me.

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But what started out as an antidote to overcrowding has evolved into a two-tiered justice system that allows people convicted of serious crimes to buy their way into safer and more comfortable jail stays.

The most hilarious part is believing that this is not the system behaving exactly as expected.

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This is a Cali thing, as far as I know. It’s meant to reduce overcrowding.

This would not fly in some other areas of the US, like the south.

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There was a weird thing in England that if you were found not guilty and released from prison, you’d have to pay the prison boarding costs because you had no right to be there in the first place

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So you had no right to be there but definitely didn’t have the right to not be there

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The US does this too!

Washington may be the most expensive state to be behind bars, as it charges up to $100 per day just for room and board, according to Lauren-Brooke Eisen, senior counsel at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice. Maine, which charges around $80 per day, may be the second most expensive, she added, but it’s not clear because many states don’t report the exact amounts. “Most states don’t provide the exact amount; they call for ‘full cost of incarceration’ or ‘a reasonable amount,'” Eisen told Truthdig. “In reality, these states which don’t provide real numbers may demand the steepest already very difficult for people with a criminal record to get a job, even if they committed a nonviolent crime, so steep fees can add to their struggles,” she said.

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Also the idea that we as the taxpayers shouldn’t be paying for incarceration is ridiculous. We need to bear these costs to ensure we’re incentivized to minimize overincarceration

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It’s ridiculous. I’d say you should be the one paid compensation (although I think it is usually deducted from compensation you are awarded by the court anyway, but still ridiculous that they have the audacity)

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Same thing for Germany.

Someone is currently suing the Bavarian government for 750,000€ for 13 years of wrong imprisonment (he only received 400,000€ in damages, or 75€ per day).

Now the government is demanding 100,000€ back - 50,000€ for food and accomodation and 50,000€ for the total wage he received from mandatory prison labor.

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They’re suing his WAGE back for work he still did???

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4 points

It’s not like he had any rights to do his mandatory 2€-per-hour job. Completely understandable /s

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I’ve lived in the UK my whole life and I’ve never heard of this. I’m going to have to ask for a source because it really does sound like an urban myth.

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This was real until very recently.

Compensation for the wrongly convicted could be reduced by the savings on room and board you get for being locked up. Given how much money people spend on rent in the UK, this could massively reduce the compensation received.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66417103

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12 points

Send them an invoice for your consulting services. Or, sue for kidnapping.

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If I saw an article with the title

UK man has $80,000 room and board bill from prison after being found not guilty of murder.

I’d be looking to see if it was from the onion.

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Probably to regain the lost funds into the imprisonment fund from the compensation fund for wrongful imprisonment. Might be more of a dumb than an evil thing.

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No, it’s evil.

Another person replied with a real story where it happened. They also did this to the guy wrongfully imprisoned 25 years

He explained that his compensation was also calculated on the assumption that he would never have worked and would have received benefits.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy31pk1w0lo

Edit: And I could see maybe its hard to assume he’d become a lawyer or Dr with high wages, but no job with only benefits, and then room and board subtracted? Savage.

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Holy shit.

He explained that his compensation was also calculated on the assumption that he would never have worked and would have received benefits.

Fucking monsters.

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