17 points

As the war dragged on, minor issues in 2022 became glaring problems by 2025. Ukraine’s professional military core eroded, replaced by mobilized teachers, drivers, farmers, and IT workers.

What?

Three years later, these issues expose systemic failures to adapt, not mere growing pains.

Also What??

Honest discussion about these issues is essential, without downplaying or ignoring their existence.

That’s what a liar propagandist would say, isn’t it?

World War II proved large wars can’t be won by motivated volunteers alone:

WTF?!?!
Oh boy this is just one big straw-man argument, I can’t endure any more, read at your own peril.

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13 points

In 2024, Russia took 4200 square kilometers. That’s about 12 square kilometers per day. Ukraine is 603,000 square kilometers. So if they keep going, they win in 2162.

Russia is also losing some 1000 troops per day (low estimate). So when they’ve finally won in 2162, there will be 50 million dead russias

Loosely translated: ukrain isn’t losing much territory.

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Most of those 1000 troops per day are not dead. Most of them just get serious injury - they are not dead, but they might have lost an arm or something.

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3 points

Blind faith is what led to the 2023 counteroffensive being such a failure in terms of objectives, throwing the best equipped and freshest troops into the maw and getting chewed up in insanely dense minefields and a surprising breadth of Russian treeline positions lying in wait.

Bahkmut, Kursk, and the dogged bridgehead across the Dnipro by ZPP in 2023-2024 are just a few examples of moves that cost an outsized quantity of SF/men and materiel in general, NATO equipment and elite units, and marines respectively, while delivering mixed to ‘not worth it’ results imo

Ukraine has definitely had a large quantity of their highly trained and elite troops attrited and eroded - why else do we see so many recruitment openings for the more kinetic units like Azov and SF?

Retreats like from Avdiivka hurt to see, but that is the game they should be playing of defense in depth while abusing and assaulting Ru weak points as they are found.

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4 points

Blind faith is what led to the 2023 counteroffensive being such a failure

That is more than a year ago, and the lesson was absolutely learned.

Bahkmut, Kursk, and the dogged bridgehead across the Dnipro by ZPP in 2023-2024 are just a few examples of moves that cost an outsized quantity of SF/men and materiel

Not true, Bakhmut cost Russians way more, and tactical retreat was done to avoid unnecessary losses. Kursk was a strategic crucial victory for many reasons.

The situations are not comparable.

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Not true, Bakhmut cost Russians way more, and tactical retreat was done to avoid unnecessary losses.

Cost more numerically, yes. But if your opponent at Bahkmut is Wagner + armed convict meat waves, and it’s costing you regular and decently trained soldiers and mobilized personnel it is not a good trade, even at 5:1. When your opponent has a military aged male population of roughly 80 million, whilst you have at best 20 million MAMs, you need to be more selective in how you spend lives and materiel to attain objectives. Russia has almost entirely looted their Soviet inheritance of armor, and is hobbling together any shitbox tank, BMP, or MTB with drone cages and mine rollers to throw at the front - Ukraine should be (and this year has) obliging them, grinding away at the Russians and ceding territory slowly via defense in depth. Russia cannot maintain forever, even with DPRK support, whilst China largely sits this one out and gets an economic win.

Kursk was a strategic crucial victory for many reasons

Strategic how? It was a cultural and political victory, but like many of the prestige offensives, it has cost highly skilled and well equipped troops to capture mobliks and swelled the length of the frontline that ultimately needs defending. The much theorized hope that Kursk would force Russia to slow/stop their advances in the Donbas has not played out.

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8 points

I want Ukraine to have a definite and permanent victory, but lionizing the UAF at every level is the propaganda line, not admitting their shortcomings. Its been over 2 years, they’ve put up a very admirable fight and done a lot of damage to Russia but they’ve suffered a lot of damage as well. It’s a meat grinder for everyone, with minimal to no gains and no end in sight. I am not at all surprised by news of desertions, draft dodging, and generally low morale.

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2 points

If it was russia vs china, id agree.

But this is worlds second superpower with worlds top 5 or 10 everything depleting its economy and inheritance from back when it had talented occupied areas do everything for them. A country that even people the most pessimistic about russias capabilites absolutely thought the 3day smo would be a week the most. Now remember they are fighting europes poorest nation recovering from 2014, without full support of nations who promised full boots on ground allegiance and fighting with scraps and one hand behind their back for most of the war.

You can’t make this shit up how well Ukraine is doing despite how little enemies of russia and allies of Ukraine are helping ukraine.

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6 points

It’s a meat grinder for everyone,

False equivalence

no end in sight.

Russia is definitely collapsing as we “speak”, the war chest is empty, so although we can’t say exactly when, Russia will not be able to continue for much longer.

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Russia has the materials and man power to continue for at least another year. Their economy might cause a revolution from within, but if that doesn’t happen Russia is in for at least the next two years.

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5 points

Absolutely not true.

If a fifth grader and a lion got in a fight and after an hour both parties had lost an eye but still fighting

You’re not going to look at that and go “wow that fifth grader is doing really bad” you’re going to be like what the fuck is wrong with that lion? Shit was supposed to be over 1000 days ago.

Russia is absolutely losing. A middle school football team is crushing the Lakers in basketball.

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