They are still in Russia. They moved on to fucking with the German election now I believe.
Yeah, I wish they’d promote the Green party here.
But with our voting system they have to promote the nazis directly.
Which they are unfortunately doing very successfully, along with fucking Elon Musk.
America, could you please keep your billionaires to yourself? They’re annoying as hell.
Can’t we just return him to South Africa? We don’t really want him either
Elon is from South Africa. Also, if we could control them, they wouldn’t be billionaires.
I don’t subscribe to the notion that where you were born defines what nationality you are.
He speaks English, not Afrikaans. He lives in the US, has US citizenship, made his billions in the US, owns several US companies, and the president elect of the US lovingly caresses his dick every night with his wet, pouting lips.
i noticed the gaza campaigning seems to have almost gone now the election is over too
The Harris and Trump promoters also suddenly went quiet the day after the election.
What did you expect? The election cycle do be like that.
No they didn’t lol there were topics about the election results immediately after, and for probably two weeks at least.
After the election, what’s left to say about third party candidates who everyone knew wouldn’t win, including the people who voted for them?
Isn’t now the time to start building a third party up to have a chance in the next election?
It’s better than pulling a Jill Stein and parachuting into the debate in the last couple weeks to gain some funding.
If those “green voters” actually gave a shit about getting their candidate elected, you’d hear from them for more than 2 months every 4 years.
But no, that was never the goal. Their goal was for Trump to win
And do what, canvas when there’s no election and get even more doors slammed in your face.
Yeah the green party isn’t campaigning in the off season, but neither are Republicans or democrats because nobody cares. Half the people only pay attention to politics the week before the election.
You know there’s more than just the presidency… Right? Right? Building locally gcssroots doesn’t mean showing up for the presidential cycle every four years. You understand this, right?
Yeah man, like 3 people on lemmy are the ones who TURN THE TIDES on elections
My god, the insanity is real.
Oh, I thought that was because I blocked Trump and Musk in my keywords. It’s been a peaceful time and I expect I shan’t ever go back.
I don’t know about the Trump promoters, but a lot of the people vocally supporting Harris are very much still here, commenting about other topics. A few (but only a few) of the third-party supporters are still here too, for that matter (notable example: @givesomefucks).
That’s how you can tell they’re real users, rather than shills being paid to push an agenda: they didn’t go away when the job ended.
This thread is not about people’s appetite for political discussion, or whether they’re misguided enough to only pay attention to the Presidential election instead of building their party from local offices on up. It’s about whether they were ever legitimate at all to begin with.
The election is over, did you expect them to keep telling you to vote 3rd party when there is no election to vote for them in? Perhaps you noticed that all the “Vote Harris” commercials stopped too?
If they’re legitimate users, I expected them to continue to exist, occasionally commenting on memes and cat pictures and whatnot like the rest of us.
But they’re entirely gone instead, almost as if they stopped working once they stopped getting paid.
If they’re legitimate users, I expected them to continue to exist, occasionally commenting on memes and cat pictures and whatnot like the rest of us.
I assure you they do, they just aren’t saying “Fuck Harris vote for this cat instead” on cat pics, because that would be insane.
Edit: Upon reflection, the cat is likely the best candidate.
I’ve been around, commenting on stuff! Which specific users are you talking about disappearing? I’d love to see actual evidence for this conspiracy theory!
The one(s?) that got permabanned for posting about third parties, apparently.
Do you have all these usernames memorized or something? How can you be so certain they are “entirely gone”
if they’re people OP was arguing with then they just need to scroll back in their account history to see those conversations again
Right here, what do you want?
Right here, what do you want?
Generally speaking, I think we want you to be a more intelligent voter.
You voted for somebody complicit in a genocide. You call that intelligent? Do you think it becomes intelligent because 70+ million other people also did it? Real “if everyone else jumped off a bridge” moment.
You voted for somebody complicit in a genocide.
I voted for someone whose values, and whose party’s values, are closer to what I believe is best for average citizens in the United States of America, based on hard data over the course of decades. If the other option was better for Palestine then maybe your argument would make sense…but that isn’t the case, so it doesn’t.
Instead, 3rd party voters voted for candidates that had absolutely, positively, undeniably no chance of winning, and now they get a president that least represents their ideals.
Real intelligent.
I’ve historically voted 3rd party. This past election i voted for a party that did not represent me or the policies I support, all out of fear of orange man. What did compromising my values do? Fuck all.
Voting 3rd party in America sends the message to the losing party that if they wanted that vote there is policy they need to adopt. There are things they need to change.
Issue in this election is even if every 3rd party vote went to kamala, she would have still lost, because they ran THAT MUCH of a terrible campaign. Their message was tone deaf. It was generic and lifeless. I could have been a better campaign manager for them and frankly that’s sad.
People get pissy when you criticize dems, but the fact of the matter is they are very much the problem in this country too. Saying they aren’t as bad as Republicans only speaks to just how awful they are, not how good dems are. Until people recognize this and demand change everyone is going to be stuck supporting one of two evils or maybe a 3rd party can steal enough support to replace one of the main 2.
All that hinges on trump not going full dictator. At this point I don’t have confidence enough Americans would actually stand up to stop him.
I’ve historically voted 3rd party. This past election i voted for a party that did not represent me or the policies I support, all out of fear of orange man. What did compromising my values do? Fuck all.
Me too except biden in 2020. And then immediately from the start it was endless frustration, disappointment and anger. Gaza is inexcusable. Fuck the democrats. Fuck America. This country got exactly what it fucking deserved. Karma for meddling in the rest of the worlds affairs by the capitalist imperialist uniparty that pretends to be at odds with each other over social wedge issues yet is United in keeping the entire world under its boot. Now america gets to experience the collapse of the imperial core.
Needless to say I didn’t repeat my mistake of voting for democrats in 2024. I’ll never vote for them again.
You done the right thing, don’t fall for the psyops.
Kamala’s campaign was not that terrible in comparison to the state of Trump. Your fellow citizens failed you by letting that eejit gain ground.
Saying they aren’t as bad as Republicans only speaks to just how awful they are, not how good dems are.
I am an anarchist. I’ve never voted. (Not American) But, Bush, Clinton, Obama, much of the same. Trump takes us down a dangerous path. One in which dissident and protest will be squashed.
I’ve historically voted 3rd party. This past election i voted for a party that did not represent me or the policies I support, all out of fear of orange man. What did compromising my values do? Fuck all.
And? Voting 3rd party would have done fuck all for you too. And you wouldn’t have been helping to potentially keep an anti-democratic felon rapist from the Oval Office.
Voting 3rd party in America sends the message to the losing party that if they wanted that vote there is policy they need to adopt.
It also helps anti-democratic felon rapists become the most influential person on the planet. People who adulted up and voted Dem instead of 3rd party in 2020 did actually prevent that person from taking office. It isn’t a full-proof plan. But it works sometimes.
because they ran THAT MUCH of a terrible campaign
Maybe so. But you aren’t accounting for the MASS misinformation being peddled to Americans. We just elected an anti-democratic felon rapist. That isn’t normal. That happened because the internet is frying a ton of American’s brains and they aren’t acting rationally because they’re so misinformed. The guy about to be sworn in as our leader went off on a tangent about immigrants EATING OUR FUCKING PETS and Americans absorbed that shit hook, line, and sinker. As far as I’m concerned stupid Americans are more to blame than a shoddy campaign. Especially since the other guy’s campaign consisted of TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRANTS EATING OUR PETS and mentioning that he had CONCEPTS OF A PLAN.
People get pissy when you criticize dems
Personally, I get pissy because I actually bothered looking up both party’s voting history and criminal conviction history and I know voting Dem is a WAY, WAY better option for average Americans than voting Republican or 3rd party at this point in American history.
maybe a 3rd party can steal enough support
Lol. This isn’t a video game. There’s no cheat code. No 3rd party has done the work to get representatives elected locally across the nation, slowly building a coalition to eventually get enough clout to put up a presidential candidate that stands a chance. That involves years, decades, of back breaking work. Anyone that tries voting for a 3rd party candidate in a presidential election now, or anytime in the near future, is living in a deep, deep fantasy simulation.
All that hinges on trump not going full dictator. At this point I don’t have confidence enough Americans would actually stand up to stop him.
Guess those 3rd party voters should have put their fantasies aside and voted intelligently. Too late now.
But we told them so.
Vote 3rd party and an anti-democratic felon rapist will be your leader.
Then it happened.
Still advocating for state level electoral reform so people can vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect.
Why are you okay with people being unrepresented with their options in the voting booth? Don’t you support democracy?
In fact no. These are the very same people that prefer a dictator to take de facto power over the will of the people( see Venezuela) just because the will of the people doesn’t align with their ideology this time
So yeah
You just perfectly described the ‘leftists’ who sat home instead of voting for Harris.
