https://lemmy.world/comment/14391879
Please no brigading, I’m only linking for context.
Criticising the OP for being spiteful by saying “Served them right!” in the post when lack of customers resulted in menu changes, which still failed to save the restaurant is hardly “excusing carnism” or being a “fake vegan” in my opinion.
“fake vegan” isn’t in the rules anywhere either? Odd really.
Failing to celebrate the closure of a (formerly) vegan restaurant due to lack of customers hardly sounds like ‘carnist rhetoric’ (rule 5) to me but what do I know.
Note. Keep your comments here on topic about whether the mods are PTB or not. Generic vegan-bashing won’t be tolerated
I’m so bored of this shit. The whole vegan vs everyone thing is so boring and played out.
I agree, and my criticism wasn’t about anyone’s being vegan or not, just their shitty attitude towards people losing a restaurant and jobs.
I do hope people don’t wade into a pro/anti vegan slugfest. I would rather see if people think the rules were fairly enforced.
Man, I troll that kind of vegan, and those mods are the kind that swallow the bait with eagerness.
There’s actually a really great plantbased C/ now that isn’t run by the zealots, so there’s friendly convos going on. It’s so nice to see.
That being said, within their idea of what that community is supposed to be, they do treat everyone equally badly when they voice even the tiniest hint of anything other than fervor. So, it’s relatively fair, in that they don’t play favorites, and apply mod actions consistently. They may use shitty rules that aren’t clearly spelled out, but they apply them in a predictable way.
It’s why, even though I would cackle at them if they rose to bait, I don’t ever feel comfortable calling it power tripping. It’s crap, it makes the community suck, and it makes it difficult on any vegan that isn’t a zealot. But that’s a different issue to me.
Now, there’s mods of other vegan communities that are power tripping as hell. Well, one, but I ain’t going into drama that old beyond using it as how I draw that line. A different mod in a different vegan community decided to issue bans to all his communities because of someone (me) not agreeing with him in the way he wanted to see it. That’s power tripping.
Someone being a crap mod and running a community poorly isn’t the same thing, if you get where I’m coming from.
Crap mods can end up being fair, simply by virtue of being crappy to everyone lol.
I am not vegan but do occasionally like to see what plant based products are available. I blocked c/vegan specifically because it seems like the whole community is one short step away from eating their own and I don’t want to get involved with any of that.
Join plantbased and be done with it. I don’t want to even call myself vegan because of these cringe lords
Word, plantbased is such a nice community. It isn’t as busy, but the folks there are awesome.
So, to be clear, the restaurant was formally vegan. Then, due to financial struggles, added carnist options to the menu and alienated a lot of their regular vegan cuatomers resulting in them shutting down.
This was old news.
Also, I can understand the mods being spiteful about things like this. It sends a message that if you’re a vegan restaurant and you add carnist options then you will lose customers, not gain them. Valid point if you’re primary concern is animal welfare. I’m vegan and I don’t want to give money to any business that profiteers of animal cruelty.
That said, I think the mod should just say that rather than banning you. Though perhaps those communities get brigaded with a lot of anti-vegan bad-faith bullshit arguments and the mods are a bit quick to the ban hammer as a result.