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Tim Cook is really playing both sides of the fence here.

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The real fence is capital vs labor, and he doesn’t play both sides of that one

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I mean, he did give a generous “personal donation” to the Trump inauguration.

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He was going to give it to whoever won. Of course he wants to be on the good side of those in power. It’s not about the president, it’s about Tim Cook.

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11 points

Really? Because he didn’t the last time.

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8 points

It’s about him being a dipshit.

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He wasn’t going to give a million dollars to Harris.

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13 points

Maybe his interpretation of DEI would be more H1Bs from India?

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He always has.

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Capitalism, and… what’s the other side he’s playing?

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1 point

Fair

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Most also did. Techbros back them mostly used to be rright-libertarian, they just pivoted more and more to republicans once non-right leaning people showed an extreme distaste for GenAI.

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Crypto has been leaning right for years and it’s a damn shame IMO. The initial motivation was to create a money supply without automatic annual pay cuts, without corporate bailouts, where we aren’t forced to either invest in a business or work until we die. All humans should share a FOSS money supply. A large percentage of us were leftists or (actual) anarchists.

Then it appreciated really fast and attracted a bunch of get-rich-quick crypto bros who understand nothing and want you to buy their latest shitcoin. And it’s hurt adoption in the long term as a consequence.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they started distancing themselves from the darknet drug markets that got us here.

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Recent happenings among payment processors making me considering amending some changes to my open source game engine’s branding guidelines, that I’ll allow projects accepting crypto etc. (still no NFTs), and I will only intervene if people involved with the projects are also involved in rugpulls, or similar scams.

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If I recall he said they were going to remove it and the board said no

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14 points

Citation needed.

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IIRC it was a bunch of shareholders who demanded removal.

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Oh ok maybe I’m misremembering

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Tim cook, a gay man, donated a million to trump. Don’t let Apple pretend they aren’t playing both sides.

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I reckon they have to at this point. Pay your dues and get to keep your business.

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5 points

But Costco loves us, right?

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Welcome to Costco

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Your uniqueness will be added to our membership.

Resistance is in aisle 6

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4 points

They also operate a lot of sweatshops.

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Explain what you mean

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A sweatshop is where people, namely children and the elderly, work for wages that could not even afford food and water or possibly even no wages at all. In many cases the people are not allowed to leave. Noteworthy past examples include Nike Sweatshops in east asia including Pakistan, Indonesia, and India.

Similarly, Apple runs Sweatshops in India, and in December of 2020 a riot broke out where the unpaid workers trashed the facility that assembles iPhones.

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I’m nearly certain that ALL major tech manufacturers do. So, don’t go thinking that Samsung phone of yours is sweatshop free.

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I tried to avoid that by buying fairphone, hopefully their supply chain is decent.

Who needs a phone that costs 1500 to doom scroll Lemmy anyway

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3 points

Really? Damn

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62 points

Fuck yeah I love Costco

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Well they don’t love you.

They can tout DEI and idpol all they want. They’re still stiffing union workers.

Companies are not things to love.

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I don’t doubt that all companies push back against unions. They force the company to pay more. The only thing I have to say regarding Costco is that it usually pays its employees a much better wage than most stores.

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I’ve also heard this. Their employees are generally pretty happy about working there.

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Yes they do. I saw it in a documentary. “Welcome to Costco, I love you.”

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0 points

The least racist is still racist.

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Can someone smarter than me (I know, it’s a low bar) explain how DEI is unconstitutional? Especially when it comes to private enterprises like Apple and Costco?

Edit: okay, I found a decent article that lays it out. While I agree with the basic premise, I know its effect won’t be more equality.

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My understanding is it’s basically pulling the uno reverse card to suggest it’s anti-white behaviour.

“I got passed over for a promotion cause they needed another minority manager instead of a white one” type stuff

I’m not American so no idea what your constitution says.

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DEI is basically “you know that thing we do where we only hire from the old boys club at our favorite ivy league university? Let’s hold off on that.”

Companies benefit from DEI policies because they expand their hiring pool, so the company ends up with better talent. They’re still aiming to hire the best out of that pool, of course. Companies are motivated by profit, not by reparations.

I know its effect won’t be more equality.

Its effect will be more equality. Unfortunately that is not a good thing for the old boys club, which is what motivates the FUD and disinformation you’ve heard regarding DEI as a buzzword.

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It’s usually more than just “not only hiring old white dudes” but a conscious effort to make the place more representative of society by intentionally hiring people of diverse gender/ethnicity/handicap instead, sometimes leading to processes being closed to people who aren’t part of certain groups, which might in theory go against some laws depending on where you live, but the same thing can be achieved by just wasting time filtering out white men’s CV or just not calling them back after interviews, so I personally don’t mind just being excluded and giving others a chance, if they don’t have non white dude applicants then I’ll get called and otherwise I’ve got plenty of doors open to me, more than most in fact and that’s not ok.

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the whole DEI inititive generally is to get people who historically underprivileged more positions at work. this however in a few instances, would lead to someone being hired because of their race, rather than skillset. Theres ongoing anti sentiment who fully believe that anything with DEI has made a company gone downhill (with basically 0 evidence, or very anecdotal evidence proving so)

Constitutionally, some claim it to be unconstitutional because of the 14th amendment that states:

“No state shall…deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

as the idea of affirmative action, or DEI programs bascially give minorities a higher chance of being hired, therefore the idea is that people were not equally protected under law.

basically programs typically put Whites (and Asians in some contexts, tech jobs and universities) at a disadvantage.

personally, i think most of it is hubabaloo, and most companies know(or should know) the minimum requirement they are looking for out of an employee since most of them already want the cheapest person in the building regardless of race. I just think the argument that they wont hire the best person suited for the job a fallacy, as if they were THAT good, then they would never get passed up to fill some racial quota. No one is going around for example passing up on Jim Keller (cpu architecture guru) over a minority designer who has little experience. for the jobs that require the best, a company will look for it regardless.

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“No state shall…deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Republicans have gotten away with breaking this so many times…

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Well y’see there’s this one weird trick where you can declare people not people anymore

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Thank you. That was easy to understand.

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Correct, unless it’s for work that doesn’t require special qualifications then it’s usually a question of “out of those employees with very similar qualifications, is one of them part of an ethnic minority/a woman/someone with a handicap?”

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I like your definition, but I would argue the question is less “are they an ethnic minority or woman?” And more “do they have likely have experiences and perspectives different from our existing team based on their demographic?” A homogenous team is more likely to share a blind spot or weakness. It’s why varied backgrounds, ages, and gender identities are helpful.

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I want to add that while I agree that in most companies “most of it is hubabaloo” and the companies just hire qualified people, there are some loud and visible examples of blatantly unqualified people getting a position with only apparent qualification being pronouns in their bio. For example a game developers spokesperson not realizing calling all gamers “insufferable bigoted incels” on social media is not a reasonable way to market a videogame.

So while most companies just call countering biases in hiring DEI, the term DEI for many people is now associated with hiring unqualified people, largely because those rare examples I mentioned being amplified and presented as the norm by right-wingers.

If you ask me, companies should drop the term DEI from their hiring policies and just write them neutrally. Sure, most of the perception of unfairness is probably unfounded, but not all of it. And whether true or not, the perception that the hiring process was not fair by people rejected by the hiring process just builds resentment and builds support for morons like Trump that speak against such policies.

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Hiring unqualified people also happens without DEI though and looking at studies on DEI’s impact on productivity it might actually happen more without it in place considering that output usually increases when implementing DEI measures…

A bunch of candidates from diverse backgrounds, the unqualified white dude gets hired out of unconscious systemic racism or out of fear of being flagged as a company with DEI measures in place. Nepotism as well, hire the son of a good employee even though better candidates exist…

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I’m not familiar with the example you’re referencing. Was it stated this person was only hired for their pronouns or just due to a diversity initiative?

There are people who reveal themselves to be unqualified and incompetent through all types of hiring practices all the time. That does not invalidate the methodology entirely because none is perfect. If it was doing so consistently in a way that can be documented, that’d be different. But if that were the case, for profit companies would drop it on their own without external pressure.

The problem is it doesn’t matter what you call it. Affirmative action, DEI, whatever. The people who complain about DEI will complain about that new term. I’m not sure there’s a neutral way to describe that if two candidates are about equal, you’ll pick the one from a disadvantaged/underrepresented background. Even if you said you’re looking for unique perspectives, if it’s not a white man who ends up making the mistake, some people will complain that unique perspectives are anti white and racist and hurting the country.

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I fully agree with your second point, it’s so easy to blame minorities (be it racial or gender or sexual identity) that those situations are what gets talked abkut. The number of unqualified people who are hired/have been hired based on who they know vs what they know probably far outweighs mishandled DEI policies.

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And why are we comparing Apple to Costco?

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Because both companies are doing the same thing at the moment regarding a certain subject…

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Because they’re both standing behind their DEI programs when much of Corporate America is rushing to dismantle theirs.

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apple is so good for having a diverse group of slaves to build their phones

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A lot of them are temps/contracted too, which is even worse. (at least for their warranty/refurbishment locations)

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