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So theyโ€™re admitting that Trump, a private citizen, interfered with US foreign policy, which is yet another crime.

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Just like when Nixon sabotaged the Paris peace talks, or when Reagan betrayed the American hostages in Iran.

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Does it count as ending the genocide if he helps Israel kill all the remaining Palestinians so there are none left to genocide? ๐Ÿค”

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Well, it ended, didnโ€™t it?

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This fits the bill with the actual bad faith arguments that tankies make constantly.

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3 points

Not yet

Israel has intensified its military operations before a ceasefire expected to take effect on Sunday, launching repeated attacks on Gaza City. The Israeli military said it bombed about 50 sites throughout the Gaza Strip over the past 24 hours.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/1/16/live-celebrations-in-gaza-as-israel-hamas-reach-ceasefire-deal

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2 points

End it, not put a stop to.

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I would like to remind people this conflict is decades and decades old, itโ€™s not a democrat thing, or republican thing. America has supported this genocide for over 50 years. The democrats and republicans of now will surely, if unfortunately, continue.

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While true, Iโ€™m over 50 and have never seen such mechanized destruction in my lifetime. And yes, now Iโ€™m woke to the fact that my country has supported this shit the whole time.

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More like 3000 years+. The entire region has been fucked up forever. They just have had someone else to blame for the last 70 years.

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The whole world was at war for most of history. Also, among others:

Ptolemaic rule brought stability and economic prosperity to the region.[120][121]

The Byzantine era was a time of great prosperity and cultural flourishing in Palestine.[181]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine

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Yes, the region has been in conflict for far longer then a century. Iโ€™m talking about the country of isreal, as its less then 125 years old. Zionism is the part that wants the genocide of palastine for the new state of isreal, which started a bit over 100 years ago and america has been a long supporter of.

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You sure got himโ€ฆ

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Israel must be the worst genocider in the history of genocides, considering the Palestinian Arab population has grew from 944k to 5 million in this time, and thatโ€™s not counting the Palestinian diaspora. Arab population of Israel has also grew, from 200k to 2 million right now. Like I said the worst genocide in history, the only genocide where the genocided population grows.

Sources:

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Even Arab israelis are still oppressed, despite having citizenship. Arabs in the south levant are at best, second class citizens. And at worst, targets.

Not only the politicians actively express their wish for genocide, Netanyahu has actively compared palestinians to Amalek, which has been used as justification by people like Baruch Goldstein.

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In whole, or in part.

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Like I said in the comment above, from 1m to 5m in the part of West Bank and Gaza, and from 200k to 2m in the part of Israel

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People need to remember Netanyahu wants Trump in power, so is going to make decisions that are good optics for Trump when he can. He similarly made decisions that are bad optics for Biden on purpose. While Biden did himself no favors, never forget Netanyahu is the one who put him in that position.

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Itโ€™s so odd that the time line for this surge of fighting happened right through the election cycle. You know, itโ€™s almost like if you were to coordinate political strategies with your allies you could find advantageous opportunities that serve each other to the disadvantage of your opponents. Except, that could never happen, right? Right? As if what appeared to be genocide was just sloppy blitzkrieg trying to cause as much damage as possible in a limited time frame.

Ok, Iโ€™ll shut up now, I wouldnโ€™t want people to think those with unlimited resources are capable of high level strategic warfare.

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Henry Kissinger did something similar to delay the end of the Vietnam war, in order to get Nixon elected.

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