β€œA big group of Trump supporters are polled, and over half of them say Biden made the economy worse.”

Same title, more accurate.

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Did they release the details of their poll though? I mean, they can’t be too far off, Biden did lose both the electoral votes and the popular vote.

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What?

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The person I replied to said a bunch of Trump supporters were polled. I am wondering what made him think they were all Trump supporters.

Or did you mean that you don’t understand that the Democrat side lost both the electoral vote and popular vote?

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Harris didn’t lose because of Biden’s COVID policies, she lost because she said she wouldn’t have done anything differently than Biden even with hindsight. Look at the betting odds and polls right after her interview in October where she said that, that’s the point when everything reversed.

Last year, people wanted change and Harris offered more of the same. That’s why she and Democrats lost.

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Yeah, her saying that really put the final nail in her campaign. She assumed because she had so much donation in her war chest, that everyone was in love with Biden. She was wrong.

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Fox news poll, should be reliable.

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Just as reliable as the other news orgs.

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I do not believe that for a second. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think any of them are bastions of truth but fox is NOTHING but propaganda. I think the other keep some nuggets of truth in there with the proaganda.

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How many billion-dollar lawsuits did they lose recently?

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Well the other news orgs call it a news org. Wikipedia calls it a news org. The general public calls it a news org.

But yes, I am very aware that Lemmy doesn’t call it a news org.

I consider them a news org, and I mod the community, so…

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I wonder why they think thatπŸ€”

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Pretty sure the economy would be the same regardless of pres, tho…

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Yeah, I know. I imagine it’s the 24hr propaganda.

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24-hour propaganda from both the Dems and the Repubs.

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That’s only true because Trump would’ve made the same mistakes. He signed the first stimulus bill, after all, and was pushing for weird alternative treatments, so I have no doubt he would’ve had similar policies that would’ve continued to disrupt global supply chains and unbalance monetary policy.

The problem here is short sighted policies (i.e. win the midterms) that juice things enough to punt problems down the road.

What we should have done IMO is strongly encourage the elderly to stay home and otherwise keep business as usual. Lots of people would get sick, but we’d get some level of herd immunity quickly and keep the economy moving while protecting the most vulnerable. Both candidates would’ve juiced the economy with stimulus packages, and that directly contributed to inflation.

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Agreed. Great points.

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Fox forgot a global pandemic might have skewed the numbers a bit for both of them

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How so?

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You don’t think a global lockdown affects daily life and work?

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Well, Biden ordered it. So yeah, I guess that skewed things, but I remember everyone praising him.

But yeah, that could have skewed the numbers. But doesn’t make the poll wrong. It just provides a reason for it.

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It’s true though. But to keep the economy stable it would have meant standing aside while Russia took Ukraine. Republicans are exactly the kind of people who like to brag about all the things America has done to help the world while not wanting to those things in the first place.

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We gotta lot of shit we need to fix here, before we help the rest of the world.

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