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Google begins recommending DuckDuckGo.

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That or Startpage

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Or SearXNG. I run an instance, you can check it out: search.gregtech.eu

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I just wish they wouldn’t use Apple Maps.
Is there a search engine where the maps tab uses Openstreetmap?

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While I guess I’d prefer if they used openstreetmaps, is there anything wrong with Apple Maps other than being less open?

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I find it’s close to useless in comparison. It doesn’t even show house numbers on the map.

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At this point I’ve been using DDG for 7 years as my main search engine. It’s gotten better while Google has become a joke.

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Can confirm. I didn’t think it’d be like that but it do be like that. DDG gang, where you at.

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I switched to DDG recently due to the manifest v3 changes and AI junk and have been really liking it. It feels like what Google used to be when it was good.

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You didn’t switch to FF due to the manifest v3 changes? You switched search engines?

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Hah yeah I guess I combined those confusingly. It was both of those things hitting around the same time, I switched to FF and DDG.

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So, you’re saying Bing got better.

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I don’t know the full story about how Microsoft is developing Bing, but I do know that Google made a conscious decision to make their search results worse, simply so that you’d search more times, which for them translates to additional ad revenue. But, my sense is Bing hasn’t gone this far yet.

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DDG does add their own spice on to – or so they claim, and Bing doesn’t have bangs so I’d never want to use it.

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Personally I just use the better in-browser feature instead of bangs

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DuckDuckGo: The coolest way to use bing and apple maps.
(I do use it though)

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4 points

It’s not only the results, though, but other features too

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Can’t wait until they enshittify, the way I see it, everything will eventually, even Lemmy. It’s up to us to not settle too hard in one place

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The fact Lemmy is open source and federated makes it almost impossible to enshittify. What are you gonna do, show ads? Third party clients are first class citizens here

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it still can enshittify, but we can save it with the help of git and the fork button

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8 points

One scenario is that normies join en masse and influencers/marketers follow them, and the quality of conversation goes to zero like on all big platforms. You can’t solve this with software.

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They get a large enough audience for disinformation campaigns

Once you see people start defending Russia it’s over

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No, I don’t think that’s sustainable, nor is it sustainable to act as if it were true. Given the lack of resources we have compared to Google or Meta et al., the only way to make it work is to stick with something for the long run, and bake in protections in both the technology and the organisational structure. Being opensource and federated goes a long way there, there’s no real reason why something not for profit would have to enshittify. But people won’t put in the effort to keep building it if they think that’s inevitable.

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The core of what you’re saying has been my approach for many years. Never go “all in” on anything.

Convenience is one thing (to me, but it’s everything to so many), but it’s just one factor. And if it means I am (or my data is) the product, it costs too much.

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They need to fix the minus syntax/feature. That’s my singular complaint.

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133 points

I remember interviewing at Google years ago (if you’re keeping score, it was 2012/2013 just before their stock hiccupped and my onboarding was killed as I was only a 97% fit), and the guy was religious about page load times. “We cut 200 lines of code if it’ll give us a millisecond of page load speed”, that kind of thing.

How they’ve fallen.

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well they don’t need to fight for new users anymore. Everyone uses it already, and children are basically indoctrinated to it: all schools have that as search engine, often they even use google classroom and drive and whatnot on the classes. if they have chromebooks, the chrome browser automatically starts after login even if you don’t want to use it, and you can’t unpin it from the taskbar either

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Google sucks so bad that I switched to Bing. BING!

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22 points

DuckDuckGo for day-to-day stuff, Bing for naughty content.

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16 points

Careful saying that round these parts, you’ll summon the ducks.

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4 points

Google sucks so bad you switched to… microsoft? 🤔

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4 points

You’d be better off selfhosting something like searxNG

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2 points

fuckya life BING BONG

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You’re a decade late on that, Bing isn’t good anymore

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8 points

We really are ruled by corporations.

I guess this is why it was so important to neuter the government and public institutions. Can’t have regular people with control over their own lives.

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84 points

Feels good not to care anymore about the unrelenting enshittification of Reddit, Twitter and Google since I switched away from them.

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71 points

Cool. As if the over-promotion of AI garbage wasn’t enough of a reason to stop using it.

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