cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/37218429

When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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The initial post could just be chalked up to naivety if we’re feeling charitable, but using the official proton accounts for this stuff is an extremely bad move. Then half-assedly retracting it without acknowledging he posted it, doubling down, and making every classic PR mistake. Aside from potential capitulation to a regime that clearly values power more than human rights, there’s significant risk from a person with such bad judgement having apparently no safeguards or second opinions when he’s posting. What other decisions is he unilaterally making for proton that aren’t publicly known?

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He’s another mini Elon wannabe, obviously. They’re coming out of the woodwork lately.

I hope people are taking notes so these scum don’t get to skate later when it falls down around their ears.

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This is basically my thinking and why I will be shifting away from their products as well

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116 points

Cancelled my years long subscription today. Any company that bows down to tRump should be avoided. Vote with your wallet.

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32 points

I did the same! No more proton unlimited! It is better to use products from multiple companies instead of one.

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Who did you switch to? I’m looking to leave proton too with all this.

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45 points

Mullvad, Tuta, Bitwarden.

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7 points

Have you used these 3 before (or currently)?

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Also curious. I left Mullvad because they stopped supporting port forwarding. Proton seemed like the best second option privacy/feature/price wise at the time. IVPN was touted highly around that time, but it appears they have also phased out port forwarding

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I believe AirVPN is the last respected VPN that allows port forwarding.

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for mail, Mailbox.org (originally I said posteo but I was unable to get the payment to go through. idk why). For drive, calendar, contacts, passwords, I’m working on setting up nextcloud but it’s not ready yet. I still have a few months before I’m downgraded. for VPN, I’m still looking for alternatives.

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More bandwidth for the rest of us!

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86 points

The post was deleted and they are in cleanup mode. Best thing we can do is post this everywhere and demand a public apology and the firing of Andy Yen.

Otherwise end your subscriptions!

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29 points

What is the Streisand effect?

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We can demand his firing but unfortunately he’s one of three founders, he’s unlikely to be fired. But I hope it’s a wakeup call to them that they should have a policy of keeping their mouth shut on politics, including all board members.

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Grrrreat… Can anyone please suggest an alternative? I’ve switched to Proton trying to de-Google…

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For Email: Posteo, Tutanota, Disroot

For VPN: Mullvad, AirVPN, IVPN

For password manager: Keypassxc, Bitwarden

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Thank you kindly!

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3 points

Can Tuta use a gateway similar to Hydroxide for Proton? I like my traditional email clients and have a machine I trust to encrypt/decrypt.

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I believe they only allow you to use the official Tuta email client.

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2 points

What do you suggest for cloud storage?

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I don’t have a lot of experience with cloud storage, but Filen.io appears to have a good reputation. They offer a lifetime license as well in 100gb chunks (under starter packs), which is interesting, especially if your storage size needs aren’t great.

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pCloud has 500tb lifetime for $200

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I suggest Storj Tardigrade. It’s client-side encrypted by default (assuming you’re not using S3 gateway).

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Or support one of the last non-chromium browsers remaining by getting MozillaVPN/Relay and password manager

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Thx mr frog

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1 point

Ribbit :)

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8 points

I’ve been looking at fastmail and tuta

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Thank you for the recs, will add them to the list! Maybe it’s time to go from one to many…

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3 points

Damnit, same thing here.

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3 points

I switched to PurelyMail and haven’t had any problems. Just mail with no marketing or other bullshit

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Excellent, the more options the better! Thank you!

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77 points

Guy who sells VPNs really supportive of political party that blocks parts of the internet regionally

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