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“Which is why I’m a Republican!” - also Zappa

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I’m curious as to how you would come to a conclusion which is the complete opposite of an obvious and quickly verifiable reality

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Not quite.

In a 1991 interview, Zappa reported that he was a registered Democrat but added “that might not last long—I’m going to shred that.”[148] Describing his political views, Zappa categorized himself as a “practical conservative.”[nb 13] He favored limited government and low taxes; he also stated that he approved of national defense, social security, and other federal programs, but only if recipients of such programs are willing and able to pay for them.[1]: 315–316, 323–324, 329–330  He opposed military drafts, saying that military service should be voluntary.[149] He favored capitalism, entrepreneurship, and independent business, stating that musicians could make more from owning their own businesses than from collecting royalties.[150] He opposed communism, stating, “A system that doesn’t allow ownership… has—to put it mildly—a fatal design flaw.”[1]: 315–316, 323–324, 329–330  He had used his album covers to encourage his fans to register to vote, and throughout 1988, he had registration booths at his concerts.[11]: 348  He even considered running for president of the United States as an independent.[11]: 365 [151]

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He was a latter day Bull Moose. Not bad, Zappa

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Open source is anarchist socialism. This whole platform works because socialism works. The internet is made up of protocols that people aren’t required to implement but do because they’re good ideas that are well thought out and work and were created without force or threat of violence like threatening the right to sue for damages even. Bad ideas get worked on and fixed. Look at Wayland in Linux, a complete volunteer driven effort that got funding because it was a good idea. No one forced all Linux desktop environments to switch from x11 because a new law got signed, but instead volunteers were like “thank you for fixing x11 in your free time.”

But nope, property doesn’t exist, guess it’s broke!

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I’m not sure why this showed up as a reply to me looking up Zappa’s politics. Zappa was Zappa.

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im sure zappa would love to expand to you upon his thoughts about this topic but hes dead so he cant right now

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“Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex.”
― Frank Zappa

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He got the fascist part right.
The theocracy though, that he got wrong. Our leaders only pay lip service to God: their true drive is money.
This isn’t a theocracy: it’s a broligarchy.

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Theocracy is always about lip service. The ones who are actually about service to God aren’t concerned with power. Religion, as an institution, just provides a convenient “moral” claim to power to be exploited by power-hungry individuals.

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Theocrats invoke the divine to rule. That’s not Trump’s and his rich backer’s modus operandi. Trump only mentions God in passing when it comes to conning religious-minded people.

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Trump is not the end all be all of political aspiration. His flavor was not the dominant streak at the time of this interview. Before, and beside, his relatively recent claim to political power were, and are, claims predicated on theocratic moral justification.

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No. It’s steering toward theocracy. Thanks, Jerry fucking Falwell - may you rest in piss. The whole horror of what the US is living in now is thanks to that one greedy fuck. He was potentially going to lose money over desegregation because of properties he owned. His bright idea? Get evangelical Christians involved. It worked. This whole thing cascades into modern conservatism. Before Falwell got involved, most people considered abortion to be a Catholic issue. This fuck decided that involving evangelicals would once again make him money, so he used them. This is just the most blatant example of how things have gone. Laws have been written based on the bible as a sole source for at least 60 years, and the people involved thoroughly believe that it is the only acceptable moral or ethical code. The amount of laws that attempt to legally enforce a protestant idea of Christianity every day is insane. Thanks, Jerry, for sending the US down the path of Theocracy. We’re nearly there - maybe another three years!

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One might argue theocracy was always a grift.

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My understanding of actual theocracies might be wrong, but I imagine that the people on top of such structures know 100% absolutely that religion is just a tool to oppress and control the people.

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Christian Zionism is in rude health in the US.

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You are going to see a rise of Dominionism in action over the next 4+ years. As long as Dominionism isn’t in direct opposition to the oligarchy, it will continue to rise. See project 2025, prayer in schools, mandatory displays of the ten commandments, federal money going to religious schools, churches endorsing the republican party and not losing their tax-exempt statuses, etc…

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The laws banning abortion and porn are directly based on the Christian ideology of these people. It may not be your version and they may be hypocrites, but it’s still theocracy.

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Theocrats are rarely true believers. We’re headed towards the mammonite theocracy

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Every time a christian does something wrong, their christianity card gets revoked. Every other group has to collectively bare the responsibilities of a very few.

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This comment made a lot of sense in 1986, with Communism being at its very latest stages.

In 2025 it seems like that particular zombie is crawling out of its grave.

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Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Probably by tankies who still think China is “communist”.

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To be clear, though some folks like to make a big deal about someone being on .ml, I am not a communist, and the part that was significant to me was that our trajectory was being openly called by folks that far back, not any message regarding communism.

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10 points

Are these communist threats in the room with us right now?

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In this particular place we’re talking in? Most certainly.

In the real world? Not in the slightest.

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