How To Stop Worrying And Learn To Love Lynn’s National IQ Estimates
Isn’t It Super-Racist To Say That People In Sub-Saharan African Countries Have IQs Equivalent To Intellectually Disabled People?
No. In fact, it would be super-racist not to say this!
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/how-to-stop-worrying-and-learn-to
archive: https://archive.ph/BJ6bd
Awesome, I no longer have to link to leaked emails to convince people he’s a phrenologist, he just went and wrote a nice succinct article laying it out.
I’ll admit, even I was not bold enough to simulate this one.
Why are these people obsessed with a measurement of people that has the worst statistical validity known to mankind? IIRC Taleb ripped IQ-obsessives to shit a couple of years ago with an extended rant / published paper on the various flaws, but even from a non-stats nerd perspective the idea that you can infer the “IQ” of an entire country from the studies that these people quote is absurd. We’re talking “I measured the IQ of a bunch of kids in an orphanage in 1968, so obviously I can infer from this the value of the entire nation” levels of absurd here. Even taking their words at face value (lol) the entire endeavour is ludicrous.
The whole thing just seems completely pointless: what’s the end goal here? Being able to line people up like trading cards achieves what exactly?
(Which leads inevitably to the depressing reality that the “why” is obvious, but unspoken of course: They just don’t want to come out and say it.)
Why
Hot take time, I think when siskind was at the age that he decided there are some things he will never again change his mind about he happened to be downstream of some flavor of transhumanism that favored gene editing instead of cybernetic augmentations and brain uploads, and things kind of escalated from there.
Spotlighting eugenics-based IQ-maxing is probably his version of going all in on summoning the acausal robot god to fix everything, and also the substack money is pretty good.
E. Kirkegaard and his shitrag appear to be the sum total of his sources and he’s still trying to do the enlightened centrist thing of couching everything in ‘this is what people (who I implicitly consider qualified) have come up with to explain Lynn’s {absurd bullshit}’, which I guess at this point might possibly fool some of his Nepal-based readers (average IQ of 42 according to Lynn).
Uncharacteristically short post by slatescott, best he could come up with to explain how Lynn’s results are worth considering once we choose to ignore his vibe based research methodology and how he’s downstream of nazi money appears to be that:
- Lynn’s research is in fact anti-racist because US blacks not being uniformly mentally disabled supports nurture over genetics wrt IQ and
- really low IQ scores achktually fail to capture mental disability because it is comorbid with all sorts of impairments besides low IQ, and it’s really surely entirely possible to have a chat with a person who scored 60 on an IQ test and only realize something’s off when you try to discuss the finer points of HPATMOR with them, so having a functional country where the median IQ is several standard deviations below normal shouldn’t be out of the question.
Siskind doesn’t give a shit. If we take the above at face value the obvious conclusion is that IQ is garbage at what it’s supposed to be useful for, but the comment sections is currently full of HBD enthusiasts excited to finally be feeling seen and probably eager to send subscription money his way.
It isn’t just Kirkegaards shitrag btw, a while back some other race and IQ like paper who tried to prove that people didn’t all come from Africa or something had calculations which assumed the earth was flat. (prob not because they are flat earthers, but because they didn’t get the math).
Btw, on the really low IQ scores thing, this is an average. So if the bellcurve holds, this means there is a large amount of people in Africa with a sub 60 IQ. All of whom seemingly can function normally without needing assistance. Which means that either the measure is useless (and all these people with an IQ of 30 are doing fine (and in Nigeria are using the internet to scam IQ 130 westerners), and variants in IQ are meaningless (sorry to the 130+ average SSC reader), or the measurements are wrong (and also useless). Also, due to the bellcurve, university level IQ people from Africa should be so rare there is also just a handful of them. Which, considering we had a group of students from Africa (forgot which countries sorry) means I met all of them. (E: of course the supposed bell curve distribution of intelligence also doesn’t hold if you look at this graph and notice that there simply are no 140 IQ countries while there are 60 ones).
To me it doesn’t pass the sniff test, which makes me feel sorry for Scott, after all the extreme precautions he took to not get covid, it still blasted away his sense of smell.
They basically invent a special new type of mental impairment to apply to brown people to sidestep the need to explain why entire swaths of the global south aren’t desolate wastelands of barely functional people trying to converse in grunts, as predicted by Lynn’s research.
That the statistics of a mean IQ of nothing imply that you should be able to fit every current African university graduate in a room together seems pretty valid as a reductio ad absurdum of the whole affair, surprised I didn’t see it mentioned before.
it’s a bloody biweekly caliper gentlemen’s club meeting in the replies there
Steve Saller is in the comments calling himself moderately reasonable. Also woke enabled pakistani rape gangs in the top comments.
Cracker Johnny calls this ‘an unironically stunning and brave article and I’m here for it. I appreciate your post.’
TTLX thinks we should move to the obvious next step and finally start talking about how this is affected by deliberate sexual selection, combining inceldom and eugenics in a way that shouldn’t be surprising to anyone. Siskind chimes in to say that seeing results in 2-3 generations is unlikely unless you get real hardcore about it and only allow the top 10% IQ havers to reproduce, otherwise more like 20-30 gen for 15 points, because that’s how it worked for Askhenazis and also something something china.
